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Turing Award Winner: Data Abstraction, Dijkstra, Distributed Systems | Barbara Liskov

April 27, 2026ยท34 min
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Barbara Liskov is a Turing Award winner known for her work in programming languages and distributed systems. We discussed the major problems she solved in her career, stories about Dijkstra, getting rejected from Princeton because she was a woman and misc topics around her work.๐Ÿ”ธ My keyboard Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryanlpeterman/compose-simple-ergonomics-beautifully-done๐—ฃ๐—ผ๐—ฑ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ธ๐˜€:โ€ข YouTube: https://youtu.be/T9CGjbPZeaMโ€ข Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835โ€ข Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/turing-award-winner-data-abstraction๐—˜๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ผ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ธ๐˜€:โ€ข Go To Statement Considered Harmful: https://homepages.cwi.nl/~storm/teaching/reader/Dijkstra68.pdfโ€ข Viewstamped Replication: https://www.cs.princeton.edu/courses/archive/fall09/cos518/papers/viewstamped.pdf๐—ง๐—ถ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฎ๐—บ๐—ฝ๐˜€:0:00 - Intro1:00 - Getting rejected from Princeton2:53 - The software crisis9:03 - The drawbacks of Python10:17 - Getting into distributed computing13:09 - Paxos vs Viewstamped replication21:44 - The significance of Dijkstras letter25:04 - Why she stayed in academia30:39 - Why her award was questioned33:51 - Outro๐—ช๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—•๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ:โ€ข Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Liskov๐—ช๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฅ๐˜†๐—ฎ๐—ป:โ€ข Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/โ€ข X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpetermanโ€ข LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/โ€ข Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpetermanโ€ข Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpetermanโ€ข TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman

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