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by Grant Evans and Justin Hanna
Welcome to The Payments Shed, the podcast where payments, fintech and business leaders share the ideas shaping the future of commerce.Hosted by Grant Evans, Justin Hanna, Sarah Stapp, Kara Parkey, Liam Gray, Jasmine Chana, Jason Heister and Rogier Rouppe van der Voort, our team has held leadership roles at Global Payments, Worldpay, PayPal, Braintree, Aeropay, MX, Coast, AFT, VGS, Checkout.com, Plaid and PCN. Join a community of 200k+ LinkedIn followers and 350k+ YouTube subscribers for practical insights, honest conversations and strategies from the people building the future of business.
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- Yesterday15 min
Ep. 179 - Modern Treasury Is Charting Its Own Path In Payments with Evervault
Modern Treasury likes to build in-house, but card data changes the maths. On the floor at Money20/20 USA in Las Vegas, Sarah Stapp sits down with Matt Craig (Product, Modern Treasury) and Shane Curran (Founder & CEO, Evervault) to talk about owning more of the stack.Matt explains why Modern Treasury has applied for a national trust bank charter and why building in-house is the default. He also tells the story of launching Push2Card with Evervault without taking on full PCI scope. Shane explains how Evervault lets teams build their own card tooling, and what enterprise support looks like in practice. Plus: the Shelf of Shame for how money movers handle card data.🎙️ Host: Sarah Stapp, Co-Host, The Payments Shed👤 Guests: Matt Craig, Product, Modern Treasury | Shane Curran, Founder & CEO, Evervault📍 Recorded live at Money20/20 USA 2026, The Venetian, Las Vegas#Payments #Money2020 #Evervault #ModernTreasury #PCI #Fintech
- Yesterday37 min
Ep. 178 - Beyond the Card: How A2A Payments, European Sovereignty and Open Banking Are Reshaping Checkout, with Lena Hackeloer, Founder & CEO of Brite Payments
In the latest episode of The Payments Shed Podcast, filmed live from our London studio, Liam Gray and Justin Hanna are joined by Lena Hackeloer, Founder and CEO of Brite Payments, for a conversation exploring the future of checkout, the rise of account-to-account (A2A) payments, European payments sovereignty and what it takes to build and scale a successful fintech.Lena takes us inside the changing landscape of European payments, drawing on her experience at Klarna, Qliro and Brite to explore how consumer expectations and payment technology are evolving. From instant bank payments to embedded finance and agentic commerce, they discuss what the checkout of the future could look like and whether A2A payments could eventually challenge cards as the default way to pay.The conversation turns to the maturation of A2A payments and the prospect of industry consolidation. With more providers competing for market share, Liam, Justin and Lena examine what separates sustainable businesses from those that may struggle to survive. They also explore the challenges surrounding recurring payments, the growing involvement of card networks in Pay by Bank and the importance of building consumer trust.A major focus is the commercial case for merchants and consumers. Beyond lower processing costs, A2A payments offer potential advantages around settlement speed, fraud prevention, chargeback exposure and transaction data. But convincing consumers to change established payment habits remains a challenge. They discuss where A2A delivers genuine value and which markets and use cases are best positioned for adoption.The discussion then shifts to European payments sovereignty and the continent's reliance on international card networks. With geopolitical uncertainty driving renewed interest in domestic payment infrastructure, they explore the significance of SEPA Instant, the ambitions of Wero and the European Payments Initiative, and what it would take to build a genuinely competitive European payments alternative.Lena also shares the lessons from founding and scaling Brite Payments, including international expansion, entering Germany, securing $60 million in funding and building trust with banks, regulators and merchants. They explore the realities of fintech leadership, what investors look for in a growing payments business and how her earlier experiences have shaped Brite's development.Plus, Lena takes on The Payments Shed's legendary Shelf of Shame, challenging an industry habit, assumption or piece of jargon that deserves to disappear.***The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Cyclops.Cyclops helps payments companies offer crypto acceptance, stablecoin settlement and payouts through one unified infrastructure platform.Find out more: https://cyclops.finance/***The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Salesloft.Salesloft uses agentic AI to turn buyer, conversation, deal and forecast data into clear actions that help revenue teams sell smarter.Find out more: https://www.salesloft.com***The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Mastercard Open Finance.Mastercard Open Finance enables businesses to use consumer-permissioned financial data to create more connected and personalised financial experiences.Find out more: https://www.mastercard.com/global/en/business/open-finance.html***The Payments Shed Podcast is partnered with PCN.PCN is a global boutique recruitment agency connecting leading talent and businesses across fintech, cybersecurity, SaaS, e-commerce and Salesforce.Find out more: https://teampcn.com/***Disclaimer: Views expressed are those of The Payments Shed Podcast hosts and guests, not their respective employers. Nothing discussed constitutes investment, legal, tax or financial advice.
- 6 days ago47 min
Ep. 177 - Free Isn't Cheap: How Super Payments Is Taking Zero-Cost Processing to the USA
In the latest episode of The Payments Shed Podcast, filmed live from our New York studio, Sarah Stapp is joined by Albert Periu, CEO USA of Super Payments, for a conversation exploring whether zero-cost payment processing can genuinely work, why merchants are paying more than they realise and what it takes to bring a disruptive UK fintech proposition into the US market.Albert takes us inside Super Payments and its ambitious zero-cost processing model, exploring how the business aims to eliminate payment acceptance fees for merchants while building a sustainable commercial proposition. From advertising and credit to additional financial services, Sarah and Albert examine the economics behind free payments, who ultimately absorbs the costs and why established processors haven't embraced a similar approach.The conversation turns to the true cost of accepting payments. Beyond headline processing rates, merchants face additional charges for PCI compliance, statements, chargebacks and other services. These costs can quickly erode already thin margins, particularly for smaller businesses with limited negotiating power. They explore whether greater transparency and alternative pricing models could fundamentally change merchant economics.A major focus is Super's expansion from the UK into the United States. Having previously led Zilch USA and worked at Funding Circle, Albert brings experience of taking UK fintech propositions into a very different market. They discuss the challenges of adapting to US card networks, interchange structures, state-level regulations and merchant expectations, alongside the differences in open banking adoption between the two countries.Sarah and Albert also explore Super's Savings Calculator and Savings Guarantee, examining how merchants can assess their existing processing costs, understand potential savings and evaluate the credibility of a zero-cost proposition. They discuss why trust and transparency are essential when challenging an industry where promises of free payments are often met with scepticism.The discussion then shifts to Super's international growth ambitions, including its US launch strategy and plans for European expansion in 2027. From choosing the right merchant segments to adapting the proposition across different regulatory environments, they examine what successful international expansion could look like.Plus, Albert takes on The Payments Shed's legendary Shelf of Shame, challenging one of the biggest misconceptions surrounding zero-cost payment processing.***The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Cyclops.Cyclops helps payments companies offer crypto acceptance, stablecoin settlement and payouts through one unified infrastructure platform.Find out more: https://cyclops.finance/***The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Salesloft.Salesloft uses agentic AI to turn buyer, conversation, deal and forecast data into clear actions that help revenue teams sell smarter.Find out more: https://www.salesloft.com***The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Mastercard Open Finance.Mastercard Open Finance enables businesses to use consumer-permissioned financial data to create more connected and personalised financial experiences.Find out more: https://www.mastercard.com/global/en/business/open-finance.html***The Payments Shed Podcast is partnered with PCN.PCN is a global boutique recruitment agency connecting leading talent and businesses across fintech, cybersecurity, SaaS, e-commerce and Salesforce.Find out more: https://teampcn.com/***Disclaimer: Views expressed are those of The Payments Shed Podcast hosts and guests, not their respective employers. Nothing discussed constitutes investment, legal, tax or financial advice.
- 1 weeks ago43 min
Ep. 176 - Breaking the Acquiring Risk Cycle: Why Insurance Is About to Go Mainstream, with TMU Management
In the latest episode of The Payments Shed Podcast, filmed live from our London studio, Liam Gray and Justin Hanna are joined by Sami Doyle, CEO & Founder of TMU Management, for a conversation exploring why merchant risk management needs to change, how insurance could transform the acquiring industry and why traditional approaches to protecting against chargebacks may be holding good businesses back.Sami takes us inside the hidden costs of traditional acquiring risk management, exploring why acquirers rely on rolling reserves, fixed deposits and delayed settlement to protect themselves against merchant failure. While these measures reduce exposure, they can also tie up significant amounts of merchant working capital. Liam, Justin and Sami discuss whether the industry has spent decades trying to solve a credit risk problem using cash flow restrictions.The conversation turns to the challenges facing deferred delivery merchants, particularly businesses operating in travel, subscriptions and retail. When customers pay weeks or months before receiving a product or service, acquirers face additional exposure if the merchant fails. But are these businesses being assessed fairly? They explore why traditional underwriting models can overlook important differences between merchants and how better transactional data could improve risk decisions.A major focus is what the payments industry can learn from insurance models used elsewhere. From trade credit insurance and surety bonds to performance guarantees in construction, other sectors have long transferred specific commercial risks to specialist insurers. Sami explains the thinking behind TMU Management's Acquirer Chargeback Cover and why a similar approach could help acquirers manage exposure without unnecessarily restricting merchant growth.They also tackle the trust problem surrounding insurance in payments. Acquirers have legitimate concerns about policy exclusions, unclear claims processes and whether cover will actually respond when needed. Liam, Justin and Sami examine why transparent policy terms, clearly defined claim triggers and access to live transactional data are essential to making insurance a credible alternative to traditional risk controls.The discussion then shifts to who ultimately carries the financial consequences when a merchant collapses. From Section 75 consumer protections and chargeback rights to increasing card scheme scrutiny, they explore the complex liability chain and why so much deferred delivery risk remains concentrated with acquirers.Plus, Sami takes on The Payments Shed's legendary Shelf of Shame, challenging one of the industry's longstanding assumptions about chargeback risk.***The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Cyclops.Cyclops helps payments companies offer crypto acceptance, stablecoin settlement and payouts through one unified infrastructure platform.Find out more: https://cyclops.finance/***The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Salesloft.Salesloft uses agentic AI to turn buyer, conversation, deal and forecast data into clear actions that help revenue teams sell smarter.Find out more: https://www.salesloft.com***The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Mastercard Open Finance.Mastercard Open Finance enables businesses to use consumer-permissioned financial data to create more connected and personalised financial experiences.Find out more: https://www.mastercard.com/global/en/business/open-finance.html***The Payments Shed Podcast is partnered with PCN.PCN is a global boutique recruitment agency connecting leading talent and businesses across fintech, cybersecurity, SaaS, e-commerce and Salesforce.Find out more: https://teampcn.com/***Disclaimer: Views expressed are those of The Payments Shed Podcast hosts and guests, not their respective employers. Nothing discussed constitutes investment, legal, tax or financial advice.
- 2 weeks ago49 min
Ep. 175 - The Hidden Engine: Cloud, Instant Payments and the Infrastructure Powering the Financial System, with Form3
In the latest episode of The Payments Shed Podcast, filmed live from our London studio, Grant Evans and Justin Hanna are joined by Mike Walters, CEO of Form3, for a conversation exploring the invisible infrastructure powering the global financial system, why instant payments are becoming the new normal and how cloud technology, operational resilience and emerging payment rails are reshaping banking.Mike takes us inside the engine room of modern payments, exploring the critical role Form3 plays in helping banks and fintechs move money securely and reliably at scale. While much of the industry's attention focuses on customer experiences and new payment methods, the infrastructure underneath rarely gets the recognition it deserves. They discuss the risks of legacy systems, the consequences of outages and why modernisation is becoming increasingly important.The conversation turns to the global acceleration of instant payments. From Faster Payments in the UK to Pix in Brazil and UPI in India, real-time infrastructure is transforming how money moves. But when instant becomes an expectation rather than a differentiator, where do banks and fintechs compete next? Grant, Justin and Mike explore the opportunities around data, programmability, customer experience and new financial services.A major focus is cloud technology and operational resilience. As a cloud-native payments provider, Form3 operates at the intersection of modern infrastructure and critical banking services. Mike explores cloud concentration risk, the implications of relying on major technology providers and how regulatory frameworks such as DORA are influencing the industry's approach to resilience.The discussion then shifts to stablecoins and their potential impact on traditional banking. Are stablecoins a threat to existing payment networks, an opportunity for banks to develop new services or another rail that will coexist with established infrastructure? They examine the role of regulation, the challenges of adoption and what financial institutions should be considering today.Grant, Justin and Mike also look ahead to the next wave of payments infrastructure innovation, including artificial intelligence, greater programmability and the technologies that could reshape financial services over the coming years. Will modern infrastructure level the playing field between incumbents and challengers, or strengthen the position of established institutions?Plus, Mike takes on The Payments Shed's legendary Shelf of Shame, challenging one of the industry's biggest misconceptions about payments infrastructure.***The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Cyclops.Cyclops helps payments companies offer crypto acceptance, stablecoin settlement and payouts through one unified infrastructure platform.Find out more: https://cyclops.finance/The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Salesloft.Salesloft uses agentic AI to turn buyer, conversation, deal and forecast data into clear actions that help revenue teams sell smarter.Find out more: https://www.salesloft.comThe Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Mastercard Open Finance.Mastercard Open Finance enables businesses to use consumer-permissioned financial data to create more connected and personalised financial experiences.Find out more: https://www.mastercard.com/global/en/business/open-finance.htmlThe Payments Shed Podcast is partnered with PCN.PCN is a global boutique recruitment agency connecting leading talent and businesses across fintech, cybersecurity, SaaS, e-commerce and Salesforce.Find out more: https://teampcn.com/Disclaimer: Views expressed are those of The Payments Shed Podcast hosts and guests, not their respective employers. Nothing discussed constitutes investment, legal, tax or financial advice.
- 2 weeks ago11 min
Ep. 174 - From the Racecourse to the Boardroom: Compliance, Grit and Team USA, with Highwater Bound, live from Money 20/20 USA 2026
In the latest episode of The Payments Shed Podcast, filmed live from Money20/20 USA 2026 in Las Vegas, Justin Hanna is joined by Daniel Weiss, CEO of Highwater Bound Capital and Compliance, for a special conversation exploring the realities of fintech licensing and compliance, the lessons learned from building and selling a successful business, and what competing as a Team USA triathlete can teach you about leadership, resilience and entrepreneurship.Daniel takes us inside the journey from founding Chartwell Compliance to building Highwater Bound, reflecting on what motivated him to return to entrepreneurship after successfully exiting his previous business. Having experienced the industry from both sides of the table, including his time following Chartwell's acquisition by MVB, Daniel brings a perspective on the challenges fintech businesses face when navigating regulation, licensing and the complexities of working with financial institutions.A major focus is Highwater Bound's shared-risk, success-based pricing model, which challenges the traditional consultancy approach. Rather than relying entirely on conventional fee structures, Daniel explores the thinking behind aligning his business's commercial success with client outcomes, why he is prepared to put his own fees on the line and what this approach could mean for fintech companies seeking specialist regulatory support.But this conversation goes well beyond financial services.As a current Team USA triathlete, Daniel brings the discipline, endurance and competitive mindset of elite sport into the boardroom. Justin explores how the demands of training and competing at an international level influence Daniel's approach to running a business, overcoming setbacks and maintaining the determination required to succeed as an entrepreneur.One of the more unusual aspects of Daniel's leadership approach is taking his teams to historic battlefields including Gettysburg, Antietam and Normandy. Justin and Daniel explore why these locations provide such powerful lessons in leadership, decision-making, teamwork and accountability, and what modern business leaders can learn from some of history's most challenging moments.Plus, Daniel takes on The Payments Shed's legendary Shelf of Shame, challenging the compliance shortcuts that fintech businesses continue to take and why some of the industry's bad habits deserve to be left behind.Recorded live at Money20/20 USA 2026, this special episode brings together fintech, entrepreneurship, elite sport and leadership to explore what it really takes to build a successful business. From navigating regulatory complexity to competing for Team USA, Daniel's story offers a different perspective on the discipline, resilience and mindset required to succeed both on and off the racecourse.***The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Cyclops.Cyclops helps payments companies offer crypto acceptance, stablecoin settlement and payouts through one unified infrastructure platform.Find out more: https://cyclops.finance/The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Salesloft.Salesloft uses agentic AI to turn buyer, conversation, deal and forecast data into clear actions that help revenue teams sell smarter.Find out more: https://www.salesloft.comThe Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Mastercard Open Finance.Mastercard Open Finance enables businesses to use consumer-permissioned financial data to create more connected and personalised financial experiences.Find out more: https://www.mastercard.com/global/en/business/open-finance.htmlThe Payments Shed Podcast is partnered with PCN.PCN is a global boutique recruitment agency connecting leading talent and businesses across fintech, cybersecurity, SaaS, e-commerce and Salesforce.Find out more: https://teampcn.com/Disclaimer: Views expressed are those of The Payments Shed Podcast hosts and guests, not their respective employers. Nothing discussed constitutes investment, legal, tax or financial advice.
- 2 weeks ago47 min
Ep. 173 - From Marketplaces to AI Agents: Why Trust Is Becoming the New Payments Infrastructure, with Trustap's Conor Lyden
In the latest episode of The Payments Shed Podcast, Grant Evans and Jasmine Chana are joined by Conor Lyden, Founder & CEO of Trustap, for a conversation exploring why trust is becoming one of the most important foundations of modern commerce, how transaction protection is evolving beyond marketplaces and what happens when AI agents start buying and selling on our behalf.Conor takes us inside the story behind Trustap and its journey from marketplace payments to global transaction protection. Built around solving the trust challenges that exist between buyers and sellers, Trustap now supports transactions across hundreds of marketplaces in more than 100 countries. From escrow and milestone-based payments to identity verification and dispute resolution, they explore why moving money is only one part of creating a secure transaction, and what marketplaces have historically got wrong when it comes to protecting both sides of a deal.The conversation then turns to Trustap's expansion into ecommerce, and why the business believes its experience in marketplace transactions can translate into a much broader opportunity. Conor explains the thinking behind entering the ecommerce payments market, how merchant transactions introduce different risks and expectations, and what the team has had to rethink when moving beyond its original peer-to-peer model. A major focus is the rise of agentic commerce and the challenges of trusting AI agents to transact autonomously. As artificial intelligence moves beyond product discovery and recommendations into actually making purchases, agreeing terms and completing transactions, the question of trust becomes significantly more complicated. What happens when the buyer is no longer a human but software acting on someone's behalf? And who takes responsibility when an autonomous transaction goes wrong?Conor also introduces Trustap Index, the company's approach to making marketplace listings transactable by AI agents. They explore what infrastructure is required to enable agents to interact with marketplaces, why transaction protection could become a critical component of the emerging agentic economy and whether the payments industry is underestimating how quickly autonomous commerce could become mainstream.The discussion then shifts to PSD3 and the next wave of European payments regulation. With changes to fraud liability, authentication and payment security on the horizon, Grant, Jasmine and Conor examine what the evolving regulatory landscape could mean for marketplaces, ecommerce businesses and payment providers. Plus, Conor takes on The Payments Shed's legendary Shelf of Shame, challenging one of the longstanding practices or assumptions in payments and marketplace trust that he'd happily leave behind.The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Cyclops.Cyclops helps payments companies offer crypto acceptance, stablecoin settlement and payouts through one unified infrastructure platform.Find out more: https://cyclops.finance/The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Salesloft.Salesloft uses agentic AI to turn buyer, conversation, deal and forecast data into clear actions that help revenue teams sell smarter.Find out more: https://www.salesloft.comThe Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Mastercard Open Finance.Mastercard Open Finance enables businesses to use consumer-permissioned financial data to create more connected and personalised financial experiences.Find out more: https://www.mastercard.com/global/en/business/open-finance.htmlThe Payments Shed Podcast is partnered with PCN.PCN is a global boutique recruitment agency connecting leading talent and businesses across fintech, cybersecurity, SaaS, e-commerce and Salesforce.Find out more: https://teampcn.com/Disclaimer: Views expressed are those of The Payments Shed Podcast hosts and guests, not their respective employers. Nothing discussed constitutes investment, legal, tax or financial advice.
- 2 weeks ago52 min
Ep. 172 - Break the Bundle: Why Merchants Are Building Their Own Payments Stack, with Evervault
Should you build your own payments stack?Merchants usually hear one of two answers. Use one big PSP for everything, or use an orchestrator with dozens of PSPs underneath.Shane Curran thinks more merchants should own it themselves.In this episode of The Payments Shed Podcast, Sarah Stapp is joined by Shane Curran, Founder and CEO at Evervault, to take the other side of the orchestration versus ownership debate.Shane explains why orchestrators struggle in smaller local markets, how cross-border fees can turn a few basis points into 2% or 3%, and why he would add PSPs one country at a time.They discuss:• What Evervault does, and the story behind the name• Winning Ireland's top science prize as a teenager, then leaving college after three days• Growing up in developer chat rooms, and how security caught his interest• Why card payments are where Evervault spends most of its time• The cost of a card data breach• Where orchestration platforms fall short on flexibility and control• Why orchestrators end up looking like PSPs• How Tebex brought its payment performance in Brazil back in line• Why global merchants want more control over their infrastructure• Regulation, sovereignty and domestic processing• Cross-border fees versus domestic interchange• Picking a primary PSP, then working through markets one by one• The infrastructure decision Shane would put on the Shelf of ShameShane on why the orchestration model is hard to sustain:"In the long run, it's just really hard to build an orchestration platform because you're basically building a PSP without the money movement."His advice is to build in-house from day one, because many companies end up making that move eventually.🎧 Watch the full episode of The Payments Shed Podcast to hear the complete conversation with Shane Curran, Founder and CEO at Evervault, hosted by Sarah Stapp.***The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Cyclops.Cyclops helps payments companies offer crypto acceptance, stablecoin settlement and payouts through one unified infrastructure platform.Find out more: https://cyclops.finance/The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Salesloft.Salesloft uses agentic AI to turn buyer, conversation, deal and forecast data into clear actions that help revenue teams sell smarter.Find out more: https://www.salesloft.comThe Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Mastercard Open Finance.Mastercard Open Finance enables businesses to use consumer-permissioned financial data to create more connected and personalised financial experiences.Find out more: https://www.mastercard.com/global/en/business/open-finance.htmlThe Payments Shed Podcast is partnered with PCN.PCN is a global boutique recruitment agency connecting leading talent and businesses across fintech, cybersecurity, SaaS, e-commerce and Salesforce.Find out more: https://teampcn.com/Disclaimer: Views expressed are those of The Payments Shed Podcast hosts and guests, not their respective employers. Nothing discussed constitutes investment, legal, tax or financial advice.
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