Keith welcomes Travis Opal back to the show and we discuss the bizarre email scam that led to Travis joining hey thanks., the release of their debut LP "Start/Living", life in the band since its release and how hey thanks. decided on a new direction for their upcoming LP "Avoidance." We also discuss the making of Avoidance, the creative process for the record, how Travis took on recording and mixing duties for the LP, the struggles of DIY bands and more.
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