The Modern Regulator Podcast

In Practice: Rob Hortle on the craft of building regulatory capability

June 16, 2026·19 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

Rob Hortle spent more than 25 years in workplace regulation, most recently as the inaugural Commissioner of what is now the Workforce Inspectorate Victoria. In this first episode of In Practice – a sub-series of The Modern Regulator Podcast featuring longer conversations with individual practitioners – Paul Leavoy talks with Rob about what it actually takes to build a regulator's capability from the ground up.In this episode he talks about the design and governance decisions that shaped the inspectorate from day one, why culture doesn't improve in a straight line, how proportionate enforcement works in practice, and why he thinks trustworthiness is a more useful goal than trust.The Modern Regulator (TMR) Podcast is for regulators and regulatory-adjacent professionals in Australia, New Zealand, the UK, Canada, and other stable democracies who care about the craft of regulation: stewardship, capability, posture, and practice rather than just politics.For more on this conversation, read our previously published feature on Rob and his work on TMR.Subscribe to TMR's newsletter for monthly analysis and practitioner insight.Follow TMR on LinkedIn for new episodes and articles.

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