The Messy Parts

Jake Barton Designed the 9/11 Memorial. One Photo Still Makes Him Cry.

September 29, 2026·42 min
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Jake Barton designed the 9/11 Memorial Museum. Twenty-five years later, one photograph still undoes him: a young firefighter in the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel, headed toward the towers, in what turned out to be the last picture ever taken of him alive. Jake joins Maryam on the blue couch to talk about the radical choice at the heart of that museum: letting the people who ran out of the burning buildings speak for themselves instead of being spoken for. And about the messier parts of his own stor...

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