The Late Run

Ocho & Katie Nolan are on a MISSION to Convert American Sports Casuals to Soccer

August 6, 2026·1h 6m
Episode Description from the Publisher

Emmy-winning sports "talker" Katie Nolan pulls up to The Late Run and answers the GOAT question before Ocho can even finish asking it. She explains why she'll "defend soccer to the death," why being flippant about the world's most popular game is a huge negative to you as a person, and how meeting the US Women's National Team in 2015 turned her into a believer.Then it goes deeper: the $35-vs-$5,000 problem locking American kids out of soccer and the 50 million people who tuned into USA–Belgium confirming exactly why casual American fans don't watch. Plus, why it's unfair that Carli Lloyd catches more heat than every other legend when critiquing USMNT, and the infamous German fan who kissed Katie live on TV at the 2014 World Cup. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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