
If you’ve ever wondered how to choose between Flutter and Kotlin Multiplatform—or what it’s like to use both in real-world production apps—this special double-length episode is your definitive guide. Google Developer Experts Roman Jaquez and Kevin Moore join us to unpack the realities of cross-platform mobile development. From cutting-edge healthcare apps to Bluetooth integrations and developer best practices, Roman and Kevin share deep insights, honest comparisons, and tips for mastering multi-platform dev in 2025. [Subscribe in Apple Podcasts] [Listen in Spotify] [RSS Feed] Interested in sponsoring a podcast episode? Check out our Advertise With Kodeco page to find out how! Show Notes Join Jenn and Dru for a deep dive into the world of cross-platform development with two expert guests: Roman Jaquez and Kevin Moore. From architecture to animations, this episode explores the strengths, trade-offs, and future of Flutter and Kotlin Multiplatform (KMP). The conversation also covers practical advice for testing, performance, state management, and how to future-proof your skills as a mobile developer. Highlights from this episode: How Flutter and Kotlin Multiplatform (KMP) compare in real-world app development—including where each shines. Roman’s journey bringing Flutter into a large healthcare organization and the productivity gains that followed. Kevin’s experience building cross-platform apps with Flutter and integrating native Bluetooth code through plugins. Best practices for managing app architecture, UI consistency, and platform-specific code in Flutter and KMP. State management options like Provider, Riverpod, and Bloc—when to use them and what to watch out for. Tools and techniques for performance optimization, testing, and debugging across platforms. Roman and Kevin’s thoughts on the future of mobile development—from hot reload to AI-driven coding tools. Mentioned in This Episode Kevin’s New Book: Kotlin Multiplatform by Tutorials – A Book about Kotlin Multiplatform. Kevin’s Book Mastering Flutter: Learn to develop Flutter apps for iOS, Android, desktop and web. Flutter — Google’s UI toolkit for building natively compiled apps from a single codebase. Kotlin Multiplatform — JetBrains’ solution for sharing code across mobile, web, and more. pub.dev — Find Flutter plugins and packages. Rive — A powerful tool for designing and integrating interactive animations in Flutter apps. Firebase Test Lab — Run automated tests across a range of devices in the cloud. FlutterTap Newsletter – See all the latest news about Flutter and Dart. Code with Andrea Newsletter – Learn Dart, Flutter and Firebase. Widget Tricks Newsletter – A Flutter newsletter to share tips and tricks. Contact Kevin, Roman & the Hosts Find Kevin on LinkedIn, Bluesky and X. Find Roman everywhere: LinkedIn X BlueSky YouTube Jenn on LinkedIn Dru on Mastodon. Email the Podcast Team. Follow Kodeco Kodeco on Link
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