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Kevin Sabet debates Matt Johnson on the Illusion of Consensus podcast with host Rav Arora, covering Trump’s psychedelic executive order, ibogaine, FDA approval, Right to Try, drug scheduling, and the future of psychedelic research. Sabet, a former White House drug policy advisor across the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations, argues for caution around psychedelics, marijuana policy, commercial incentives, and overstated medical claims. Johnson, a leading Johns Hopkins psychedelic researcher, responds on psilocybin studies, addiction treatment, depression, safety protocols, REMS, and why accelerated research may still follow the evidence. The discussion also covers Joe Rogan, RFK Jr., Marty Makary, Jay Bhattacharya, ketamine clinics, MDMA, MAPS, cannabis rescheduling, veteran suicide, and the risks of turning experimental drugs into public policy too quickly. Subscribe to Rav’s Substack to get episodes straight to your inbox: https://www.illusionconsensus.com Chapters: 0:00 - Intro 2:05 - Sabet’s Objection to Psychedelics 10:00 - Matt’s Disagreement with Sabet 13:15 - Psychedelic Research Quality 21:10 - Kevin’s Rebuttal 24:00 - Was Joe Rogan Wrong On Ibogaine’s Efficacy 32:50 - Ibogaine Safety Concerns 40:50 - Could The Executive Order Go Too Far 46:10 - Rescheduling and FDA Approval
Dr Matt Johnson joins the Illusion of Consensus podcast with Rav Arora to break down this weekend’s Trump administration’s psychedelic executive order and what it means for FDA approvals, rescheduling, and veteran access to therapies. As a leading Johns Hopkins University psychiatry professor, Dr Matt Johnson shares insights from decades of research into psilocybin, addiction treatment, depression, and end-of-life care. The discussion covers the political shift driven by figures like Donald Trump, Joe Rogan, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., alongside the growing bipartisan support for psychedelic science. Key topics include breakthrough therapy designations, right-to-try pathways, ibogaine research, and the real-world implications for mental health and veteran suicide prevention. This episode explores how emerging data and policy changes could reshape the future of psychedelic medicine in the United States.Chapters:[0:00] Intro[2:30] Joe Rogan Bashing Nixon[5:20] Rav and Matt’s Proposal[9:40] Calley Means’ Pivotal Role[13:40] Matt Johnson Reacts To The News[18:36] The DEA Bottleneck Problem[23:20] Real Risks of Psychedelics[32:19] Right to Try for Veterans[34:37] Jay Bhattacharya vs Trump[39:40] Jealousy for Rogan[43:51] Do Psychedelics Improve Lives?[49:55] Next Steps for Trump Admin[53:42] End of Psychedelic Prohibition? This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.illusionconsensus.com/subscribe
Michael Tracey, independent journalist, and Curt Mills, executive director of The American Conservative, join the Illusion of Consensus podcast for a sharp breakdown of US foreign policy and the Iran conflict. Michael Tracey and Curt Mills debate Trump’s foreign policy ideology, Israel’s influence, and the shifting dynamics of the American Right from Tucker Carlson to Megyn Kelly.Subscribe to Rav's Substack:https://www.illusionconsensus.com/Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guests07:15 Critique of Media Dynamics and Podcast Culture13:19 Discussion on Israel’s Influence in U.S. Politics19:28 Analyzing Trump’s Foreign Policy and War Decisions25:19 Concluding Thoughts on War and Media Responsibility37:34 Trump’s Motivations and Historical Context44:00 Personnel Choices and Foreign Policy53:56 The Epstein Connection and Speculation01:00:05 Israel’s Influence and Trump’s Ambitions01:05:50 The Influence of Steve Witkoff on US-Israel Relations01:11:18 The Role of the Israel Lobby in American Politics01:17:17 Counterfactuals: Would Trump Act Differently Without Israeli Influence?01:23:17 Voting Dilemmas: The 2024 Election Landscape01:34:10 The Shift from Pence to Vance01:40:30 Rethinking the Trump Coalition01:48:07 Trump’s Foreign Policy: A New Perspective01:58:02 The Evolving Definition of Neoconservatism02:10:16 U.S. Foreign Policy and Military Spending02:17:42 Nuclear Arms Control and International Treaties02:24:11 The Influence of Israel on U.S. Foreign Policy02:31:44 The Role of Media in Shaping Political NarrativesSupport The Illusion of Consensus!The Illusion of Consensus is a fully reader-supported publication. If you support the high-quality mental health and wellness journalism on this site, consider becoming a paid or founding member to receive exclusive articles, early-access episodes, and ask questions for future episodes. Or support The Illusion of Consensus with a one-time donation. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.illusionconsensus.com/subscribe
Out now for everyone: Senator Ron Johnson joins The Illusion of Consensus for a serious debate on Iran, Trump’s foreign policy, congressional war powers, and the risks of another Middle East conflict. We dig into the constitutional limits on military action, the case for and against intervention, Israeli and American strategic interests, and the political fallout this could have for Republicans and the wider MAGA movement. Chapters:0:00 Intro1:53 Ron Johnson Voting Against Iran War Powers Resolution10:00 Was Iran Nuclear Threat Real?19:14 Iran Firing Largest Attack Onto Israel23:05 Israel vs Iran’s Goals26:10 Objectives of the Iran War30:00 Did Israel Convince USA to Wage War?35:00 Will This Negatively Affect Future Elections?40:52 CIA Hacking Tacker Carlson?46:00 Financial Concerns Regarding the WarSupport The Illusion of Consensus!The Illusion of Consensus is a fully reader-supported publication. If you support the high-quality mental health and wellness journalism on this site, consider becoming a paid or founding member to receive exclusive articles, early-access episodes, and ask questions for future episodes. Or support The Illusion of Consensus with a one-time donation. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.illusionconsensus.com/subscribe
Senator Ron Johnson joins The Illusion of Consensus for a serious debate on Iran, Trump’s foreign policy, congressional war powers, and the risks of another Middle East conflict. We dig into the constitutional limits on military action, the case for and against intervention, Israeli and American strategic interests, and the political fallout this could have for Republicans and the wider MAGA movement.Chapters:0:00 Intro1:53 Ron Johnson Voting Against Iran War Powers Resolution10:00 Was Iran Nuclear Threat Real?19:14 Iran Firing Largest Attack Onto Israel23:05 Israel vs Iran’s Goals26:10 Objectives of the Iran War30:00 Did Israel Convince USA to Wage War?35:00 Will This Negatively Affect Future Elections?40:52 CIA Hacking Tacker Carlson?46:00 Financial Concerns Regarding the WarSupport The Illusion of Consensus!The Illusion of Consensus is a fully reader-supported publication. If you support the high-quality mental health and wellness journalism on this site, consider becoming a paid or founding member to receive exclusive articles, early-access episodes, and ask questions for future episodes. Or support The Illusion of Consensus with a one-time donation. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.illusionconsensus.com/subscribe
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.illusionconsensus.comMy Conversation with Senator Ron Johnson I just sat down with U.S. Senator Ron Johnson for a wide-ranging and, at times, contentious conversation on new Biden-era Covid documents + the war in Iran.We begin with Johnson’s investigation into newly released government documents related to COVID-19 vaccines — including claims that federal health officials d…
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.illusionconsensus.comBarry Neufeld says what a lot of parents are thinking. The Canadian school trustee has been one of the most vocal critics of gender ideology in schools — and a BC human rights tribunal recently fined him $750,000 for it.That number is worth sitting with.I sat down with Barry to get into the full story for almost 90 minutes — his concerns about gender id…
I’m excited to release this new episode with Layne Norton: one of the most respectable, evidence-based thinkers in the nutrition discourse. Layne has PhD in nutrition and has appeared in podcasts with Andrew Huberman, Joe Rogan, Megyn Kelly, and many other familiar voices.In this conversation, we deep-dive into nutrition science, exercise, chronic disease, and the illusion of consensus shaping modern health discourse. Layne breaks down protein myths, seed oils, artificial sweeteners, vitamins, fiber, obesity, metabolic health, and the impact of Covid-era messaging on public trust in science. The episode explores how online wellness culture, government guidelines, and social media gurus collide (mentioning Gary Brecka and Paul Saladino), and why statistical thinking, risk, and probability matter more than viral anecdotes. This episode is a rigorous, practical, and highly evidence-based breakdown of modern health myths.Become a paid member to support this podcast:Links:SpotifyApple(And available on all other podcast platforms)Chapters:00:00 Covid, Science, and Public Trust08:10 Universal Principles for a Healthy Diet18:40 Fiber, Gut Health, and Fruits vs Vegetables32:05 What Supplements Should You Take44:10 Seed Oils, Saturated Fat, and Heart Health57:20 Artificial Sweeteners and Sugar1:09:45 Intermittent Fasting and Autophagy1:21:30 Layne’s Beef With Gary Brecka and Paul Saladino This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.illusionconsensus.com/subscribe
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An independent podcast by Rav Arora (and formerly Dr. Jay Bhattacharya) devoted to dismantling weaponized "consensus" in science. Weekly topics include medical censorship, holistic medicine, mental health, psychedelic medicine, and well-being. www.illusionconsensus.com
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