Carla Javits on Scaling Social Enterprise Across America

What if the most effective response to incarceration, homelessness, and economic instability isn’t another temporary program, but a real job? Carla Javits has spent nearly two decades helping employment social enterprises turn overlooked talent into meaningful work, sustainable businesses, and pathways toward a better life.In this episode of The Homeboy Way, host Tom Vozzo sits down with Carla to explore how Redefine Alliance, formerly REDF, helped strengthen a national movement of purpose-driven businesses. Carla shares the scale of that impact: 350 social enterprises supported, $4 billion in revenue generated, and 176,000 people employed.Together, Tom and Carla unpack what it takes to build a viable social enterprise, why employers keep screening out capable people, and how government procurement can create thousands of second-chance jobs. They also discuss Homeboy Industries’ transitional employment model, the value of lived expertise, and why belonging and compassion aren’t just good for people; they’re good for business.Key TakeawaysEmployment creates a pathway forward.Support services matter, but people also need the opportunity to earn income, demonstrate their abilities, and build meaningful lives through work.Social enterprise requires a real business model.A strong mission cannot rescue an idea with no customers, market, or reliable source of revenue.Business and social impact must work together. Successful employment social enterprises balance revenue generation with meaningful support, skill development, and opportunity.Clear employment goals shape the entire enterprise.Organizations must decide whether they are creating transitional jobs, permanent employment, or another specific pathway for workers.Belonging is good business.Valuing lived expertise, nurturing employees, and creating a genuine sense of connection can strengthen both people and organizations.In This Episode[00:00] Introduction[00:25] Welcoming Carla Javits[01:00] Why REDF became Redefine Alliance[04:34] The business leaders behind the movement[08:50] Has society become more open to second-chance hiring?[12:21] 350 enterprises, $4 billion in revenue, and 176,000 jobs[14:22] The five pillars of Redefine Alliance’s model[16:23] Should a nonprofit start a social enterprise?[22:11] Homeboy Industries as a transitional employer[23:20] Defining business goals and employment outcomes[25:36] Bringing government into the social enterprise ecosystem[26:28] The $2.23 societal return for every dollar invested[28:24] Why government must define employment social enterprise[33:26] The Caltrans partnership creating thousands of jobs[34:50] Carla’s first impressions of Homeboy Industries[38:42] Why lived experience should be valued as expertise[39:38] Carla’s next chapter of service and leadership[42:13] Helping people take action instead of accepting doom and gloom“Do you really want to run a business? There’s a balance when you run a business. You have to balance the social mission with the revenue generation.” - Carla Javits [16:46]“People’s life experiences are a big part of what they bring to any job.” - Carla Javits [38:42]“Nurturing people and making them feel that sense of belonging is a good way to run your business.” - Carla Javits [39:19]“We need each other. We need the reflection of each other.” - Carla Javits [41:02]Homeboy Industrieshttps://homeboyindustries.org/https://www.youtube.com/@HomeboyIndustries_LA/videosDonate: https://homeboyindustries.org/donate/donate-online/Homeboy Media https://homeboyindustries.org/social-enterprises/homeboy-media/Thomas Vozzohttps://www.linkedin.com/in/thomasvozzoThe Homeboy Way: A Radical Approach to Business and Life: https://www.amazon.com/Homeboy-Way-Radical-Approach-Business/dp/082945456XCredits