The Case For Q-Day 2032 w/ Justin Drake

Justin Drake joins us to talk about the reality of cryptographically relevant quantum computers (CROC). We dive into his recent work with Google scientists on Shor’s algorithm optimizations and why neutral atoms have become the "dark horse" in the race to break Bitcoin’s 256-bit encryption. Justin shares his updated timeline for "Q-Day," the role of US government censorship in quantum research, and why the crypto industry must act now to remain secure. Subscribe to the newsletter! https://newsletter.blockspacemedia.com Notes: • 10,000 qubits needed to run Shor's algorithm. 
 • $5B invested in quantum industry last year. 
 • Drake says 10% chance of a "CROC" by 2032. 
 • Neutral atoms run 1,000x slower than superconducting Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:31 Google paper 03:40 "In flight" key cracking 04:38 Superconducting qbits 05:21 Neutral atom quantum computing 08:42 Broad Quantum overview 10:53 Neutral atoms require far less infrastructure 12:41 Is Google pivoting to Neutral Atoms? 14:12 What does winner mean? 14:41 Q-day 2032? 15:55 Why the fast emergence thesis? 22:52 Theory vs engineering breakthroughs 27:03 Timelines 35:55 What is real vs hype? 37:05 Quantum error correction 41:32 Bitcoin reality check 47:25 Justin Drake is a Bitcoiner, umm kind of... 53:03 Standards 53:43 Signature aggregation 57:19 Are NIST the baddies? 1:00:31 BTC security budget worries 1:05:14 Energy bottleneck 1:06:23 ETH security The Gwart Show is sponsored by Ellipsis Labs. Ellipsis Labs builds the most efficient on-chain markets. Their orderbook and Prop AMM products have delivered price improvement to hundreds of billions of dollars in retail volume. Now, they are bringing their expertise to build Phoenix, the best on-chain perpetuals platform. Ellipsis Labs is hiring New York-based engineers. If you're an engineer looking to work with a proven team in making DeFi better, go to ellipsislabs dot xyz slash careers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices