The Elephant in AppSec

The Lethal Trifecta or why your AI agent knows too much - Jason Fernandes

May 11, 2026·33 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

Today, I’m joined by Jason Fernandes, VP of security and privacy at Mercari, the Japanese-born global marketplace now spanning e-commerce, FinTech, and crypto. It is this rare combination that puts him at the intersection of some of the strictest regulatory environments in tech. He oversees everything from product and platform security to threat detection, privacy, and, since last year,  AI security and AI governance. In this episode, we also talked about the challenges of AI governance, the lethal trifecta for AI agents, the confused deputy problem, and how to justify AI security investments to the leadership and working with FinOps teams. And much more! Dive right in!This podcast is brought to you byEscape: https://escape.tech  — Offensive security for the teams that are 100x outnumbered, combining Attack Surface Management, business-logic-aware DAST and AI pentesting solutions.MentionedFACADE (Google's internal fraud detection model) https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.06700Meta Practical AI Agent Security (Rule of Two) https://ai.meta.com/blog/practical-ai-agent-security/Simon Willison The Lethal Trifecta https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jun/16/the-lethal-trifecta/Hiroki's AI Security blog (Mercari) https://hi120ki.github.io/blog/posts/20260103/Anthropic  Project Vend https://www.anthropic.com/research/project-vend-2

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