
John Ortberg has spent decades leading churches, writing books, and teaching leaders. But every leader has parts of the job they're not naturally good at. In this conversation, John opens up about pain in leadership, what it's like to be an introvert in ministry, and how to handle the work you'd rather avoid. 🔗 Show Notes 🤖 AI and the Future Church - NEW BOOK! 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube <span data-sheets-value= "{"1":2,"2":"Rusell Moore on leaving the Southern Baptist Convention, being tried for 'heresy', why 'normal' leaders have stepped away and allowed fringe leaders to run the church, why the culture is really rejecting the church, and the phenomenon of weaponized nostalgia and the outrage cycle. "}" data-sheets-userf
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CNLP 820 | Required Listening: Eric Peterson and Winn Collier on Eugene Peterson's Battle Over Not Losing HIs Soul, Workaholism, Bono and Celebrity, And the Tension to Create a Contemplative Life

CNLP 819 | Required Listening: Eugene Peterson on the Rhythms of a Reflective Life, The Challenges of Leading Through the 1960s, and the Origin of the Message

CNLP 818 | Required Listening: Gordon MacDonald on the View From 80 and 15 Lessons On What Really Matter in Life and Leadership

CNLP 817 | Grieving Your Ministry Wounds: Father Ronald Rolheiser and John Mark Comer on Getting Past Bitterness and Giving Your Life and Death Away
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