The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

CNLP 816 | The Brutal Reality of Pastoring: John Ortberg on Leadership Pain, the Introvert's Ministry Dilemma, and Dealing With the Job You Didn't Sign Up For

July 9, 2026·1h 18m
Episode Description from the Publisher

John Ortberg has spent decades leading churches, writing books, and teaching leaders. But every leader has parts of the job they're not naturally good at. In this conversation, John opens up about pain in leadership, what it's like to be an introvert in ministry, and how to handle the work you'd rather avoid. 🔗   Show Notes 🤖 AI and the Future Church - NEW BOOK! 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube <span data-sheets-value= "{"1":2,"2":"Rusell Moore on leaving the Southern Baptist Convention, being tried for 'heresy', why 'normal' leaders have stepped away and allowed fringe leaders to run the church, why the culture is really rejecting the church, and the phenomenon of weaponized nostalgia and the outrage cycle. "}" data-sheets-userf

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