The Bulwark Podcast

Clint Smith: Make America What It Set Out to Be

July 3, 2026·1h 8m·5-min readconversationalpolitics
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On the eve of the Fourth of July, Tim Miller delivers a melancholic yet hopeful reflection on America’s dual legacy of freedom and oppression, pairing Gerald Ford’s inclusive vision of citizenship with Thomas Jefferson’s aspirational creed. He then welcomes Clint Smith to discuss the eros

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Clint Smith

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Clint SmithTim MillerGerald FordThomas JeffersonChappie JamesLonnie BunchShirley ChisholmBayard Rustin

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Civil Rights HistoryDemocracyHistorical FiguresHistory Of ScienceInequalityRacial JusticeUs Politics

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