The Brian Lehrer Show

How MAGA Has Overtaken Foreign Policy for Personal Gain

September 17, 2026·45 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

Anne Applebaum, staff writer at The Atlantic, historian and author of Autocracy Inc. (Penguin, 2024), shares her reporting on how influential figures in MAGA world, including private citizens looking for personal gain, and others peddling anti-Democratic values, have become the primary way the U.S. does foreign policy, and are realigning the world order.Photo: USA President Donald Trump speaks as USA Secretary of War Pete Hegseth and USA Secretary of State Marco Rubio stand behind during the press conference at the NATO Summit in Ankara, Turkiye on July 8, 2026. (Jakub Porzycki/NurPhoto via Getty Images) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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