Aaron Siri: The One Product You Can't Sue in America

"People say 'I believe in vaccines.' Nobody says that about seatbelts." Aaron Siri is the managing partner of Siri & Glimstad and, by most measures, the most consequential vaccine litigator in America. He's the attorney behind the famous nine-hour deposition of Dr. Stanley Plotkin — the man they call the godfather of vaccines — lead counsel for the Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN), a 2025 Senate witness, and a central legal figure in the RFK-era reshaping of federal vaccine policy. His new book is Vaccines, Amen: The Religion of Vaccines — in his words, "a cross-examination in book form." This one steps outside the show's usual lane, and I want to be upfront: this is not medical advice, I'm not a doctor, and everything Aaron argues here is his own case — where it's contested by public-health bodies, treat it as one side of an open debate. What ties it to this show is the question we always ask: how do you know what's real when you're not allowed to check? From there we go deep — how a custody case led to the legendary Plotkin deposition; the Hepatitis B shot Aaron says was licensed on a trial of 147 kids, five days of monitoring, and no control group; the 1986 law he calls "the original sin" that handed vaccine makers liability immunity; the Ford Pinto and what punitive damages actually do; informed consent versus the right to refuse; whether vaccines really stop transmission; and the measles-mortality data he argues almost no one talks about. A conversation about evidence, incentives, and who gets to audit the people in charge. Subscribe so you never miss an episode. 🎙️ GUEST Aaron Siri — Managing partner of Siri & Glimstad. Lead counsel for the Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN). Author of the new book Vaccines, Amen: The Religion of Vaccines. Aaron Siri on X → x.com/AaronSiriSGWebsite → AaronSiriOfficial.com Book — Vaccines, Amen: The Religion of Vaccines Get Informed (ICAN) → icandecide.org 💰 SPONSORS & DISCOUNTS 🔑 Stamp Seed — After a week like this, back up your seed somewhere a bug can't reach. Hammer your seed words into solid titanium, fire-resistant to 3,000°F, and pair it with multisig to remove single points of failure. 21% OFF → stampseed.com | code MATRIX 🐟 Firefish — Don't sell your Bitcoin. Live off it. Non-custodial Bitcoin-backed loans. Your keys stay in 3-of-3 multisig. Rehypothecation is cryptographically impossible. $160M+ facilitated. 27,000+ users across 70 countries. 30% OFF the fees on your first loan → firefish.io/?ref=MATRIX | code MATRIX 🍊 Club Orange — The location-based social network for Bitcoiners. See the meetups in your city and the real merchants near you who take Bitcoin. Download in the App Store or Google Play → cluborange.org/matrix-podcast ₿ Bitcoin Well — Concierge OTC for serious Bitcoin buys. $50k+ handled one-on-one, from first call to settlement. Global, by application. infinite.bitcoinwell.com/get-qualified/bitcoinmatrix🔐 Unchained — 90,000+ BTC secured in collaborative multisig since 2016. Bitcoin-only. Never lent out a sat. IRAs, loans, inheritance planning. 10% OFF → unchained.com/matrix | code MATRIX10 💎 River — Buy Bitcoin the right way. Up to $100 FREE Bitcoin. river.com/matrix🏥 CrowdHealth — Ditch your fiat health insurance like my family did. Join us at CrowdHealth. joincrowdhealth.com | code MATRIX 🛡️ Meanwhile — The world's first Bitcoin life insurance policy. Premiums and payouts in Bitcoin. meanwhile.bm | code YTPFYD ⛏️ Sazmining — You took the red pill on money. Now own the machine that makes it. Mine your own Bitcoin: own the hardware, 100% renewable, non-custodial, coins straight from the network to your wallet. $100 OFF any rig → deals.sazmining.com/bitcoinmatrix | code BTCMATRIX 🙏 SUPPORT THE SHOW ⚡ Strike → BitcoinMatrix@strike.me 💵 PayPal → paypal.biz/BitcoinMatrix 💚 Cash App → cash.app/$BitcoinMatrix 💜 Venmo → venmo.com/u/bitcoinmatrix 📬 PO Box → The Bitcoin Matrix, P.O. Box 18056, Sarasota, FL 34231 📱 FOLLOW 🌐 Website → TheBitcoinMatrix.com 🐦 Cedric on X → x.com/cedyoungelman