The Founding Fathers Never Wanted Democracy (Then They Wrote The Bill of Rights) *Teaser*

The Bill of Rights is the ultimate receipt. The Founding Fathers did not mean to create such a banger of a document that helped enshrine equality and justice for all, they really only meant for landowning white men. Then social movements, wars, and freedom happened and Americans are still trying to live up to this document. Francesca sits down with acclaimed author and Professor Robin DG Kelley, a black radical historian whose work has been instructive for thinkers, organizers and activists. They dive into how democracy in America has never truly existed, save for a brief moment in the Reconstruction; why fascism and capitalism work so well under one another, and how nationalism and nation-states in and of themselves lead to fascism. They then discuss Kelley’s forthcoming book Making a Killing: Capitalism, Cops, and the War on Black Life” and how the police decide whose lives are disposable and whose lives matter. Kelley argues that organizing against police violence is part and parcel of the class struggle against the capitalists, and we’d be well served to see it as such. They also discuss the failures of black neoliberalism, from Obama to the many Black politicians in Atlanta who somehow support projects like Cop City.  00:01:09 Robin’s Fourth of July Message 00:08:49 Black Neoliberals and Cop City   00:13:32 Why Capitalism Loves Fascism   00:22:56 How Black Radicals Always Saw Fascism on The Horizon  00:29:27 All Goes Back to The Reconstruction 00:42:29 Robin’s New Book on Police Violence 00:50:05 The Limits of Identity Politics 00:54:14 What We Must Learn From Jesse Jackson’s Legacy   01:02:00 Why Robin is Quitting Academia 01:07:49 Hot Button Question? Pre-order Professor Kelley’s book today: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250803078/makingakilling/ *** THANK YOU SO MUCH for your support of The Bitchuation Room. Be sure to check out all the exclusive Hot Button interviews you get access to! *** Thanks to Brent Godin and Drew Spears Productions. *** Rock the pod on your bod. Get a brand new “Abolish ICE” t-shirt and a brand new mug at: www.bitchuationroom.com. *** LIVE SHOWS: Pasadena Saturday July 11th, New World Disorder at The Ice House. Get tickets here: https://events.leapevents.com/event/New-World-Disorder-07-11-26-8-pm Minneapolis August 20th: The Bitchuation Room will be LIVE! at The Parkway Theater. Get tickets here: https://theparkwaytheater.com/all-events/bitchuation-room Seattle Friday Sept 4th & Saturday Sept. 5thhttps://www.eventbrite.com/e/comedy-show-francesca-fiorentini-and-matt-lieb-laughs-comedy-club-tickets-1989424855296 Portland, OR September 7th: The Bitchuation Room LIVE! At Helium Comedyhttps://portland.heliumcomedy.com/shows/373712 Portland, OR September 8th: Francesca Fiorentini & Matt Lieb, co-headline Helium Comedyhttps://portland.heliumcomedy.com/shows/372818 Watch The Bitchuation Room LIVE on Tuesdays 1pm PT/4pmET on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/franifio or Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/franifio.Listen to the show on:iTunes: http://bit.ly/iTunesbitchuationGoogle Music: http://bit.ly/GoogleBitchuationSpotify: http://bit.ly/spotifybitchuationFollow the show on:BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bitchuationroom.bsky.socialIG: https://www.instagram.com/bitchuationroom/Twitter: https://x.com/BitchuationPodFollow Francesca on:IG:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/franifio/⁠Twitter: https://twitter.com/franifioBlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/franifio.bsky.socialThreads: https://www.threads.com/@franifioFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/Franifio Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of