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Wednesday Mornings in St Andrews take on a new meaning for the Ladies of St. Rule ClubMost golfers plan one trip to St Andrews. Fiona Steel plays there every Tuesday, but her Wednesday mornings have taken on a deeper, more meaningful purpose for her and some of the other Ladies of St. Rule Club: helping those living with dementia get back on the course.In this episode of The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf, host Matt Considine and co-host Dr. Kevin Moore (a.k.a. "The Professor") sit down with Fiona Steel (Captain of The St Rule Club), the St Andrews ladies' club in its 130th year, whose side beat the Professor's in a recent inter-club match on the Eden. Fiona walks us through club life in the home of golf, where no club owns a course, the Links Trust plans the tee sheet years ahead, and a captaincy runs on volunteers. Then she tells the story she most wanted to share: the Wednesday sessions she and past captain Marion Todd built with Tony Pennock of "Fore" Get Me Not Golf, now thirty weeks in.The conversation dives into:47 mph winds, a canceled medal, and why the Eden hands the advantage to the higher handicapperHow St Andrews works: clubs without courses, a tee sheet already being planned for 2028, and a Links Ticket wait list closed for two more yearsWhat captaining properly takes, from catering meetings to the inter-club liaison committee, and why a ladies' club still mattersWednesday mornings: one volunteer per player, tea and a tray bake, golfers who hadn't swung a club in five years, and why Fiona thinks every club in the world should do itPace of play the Scottish way: push trolleys, no caddies, ready golf and a four-hour four-ballConnect with our guest⛳ Fiona Steel — The St Rule Club: https://www.thestruleclub.co.uk/Join the NewClub community🌍 Website: https://www.newclub.golf📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newclubgolf/🐦 X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/newclubgolf💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newclubLinks & Partners👕 Holderness & Bourne: https://www.hbgolf.com💙 "Fore" Get Me Not Golf: https://www.foregetmenotgolf.co.uk/ — 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/foregetmenotgolf/📰 Linked Together, dementia-friendly golf at St Andrews Links: https://thegolfwire.com/st-andrews-links-dementia-friendly-golfThe Bag Drop📺 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bag-drop-untold-stories-in-golf/id1430328006📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thebagdrop🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2xRWtUBJH8RazdLw14oaGH🎧 Website: https://thebagdrop.fm/Connect with Matt & The Professor🎙️ Matt Considine — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/consequential85 | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/consequence18/ | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-considine-103bb21/📚 Dr. Kevin Moore ("The Professor") — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/kevcmoore | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevcmoore | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-moore-177b30b3/🗣️ Contribute to the show! — 📧 email: thebagdrop@newclub.golfChapters00:00 Cold open: Fiona Steel on the Wednesdays every club should copy00:50 Welcome: Johnny Blue Skies and a Brewers hat04:01 Introducing Captain Fiona Steel, and the Professor's Eden scar tissue06:23 The Professor's teaching: why ideas arrive mid-run09:55 Holderness & Bourne: the Cunningham quarter-zip11:31 Fiona joins: a medal blown out by 47 mph winds13:36 Why the Eden favours the higher handicapper14:53 Net eagle
What does it take to build a golf course people will still be discussing and debating thirty years from now?In this episode of The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf, host Matt Considine and co-host Dr. Kevin Moore (a.k.a. "The Professor") sit down with Kyle Franz (founder of Kyle Franz Golf Design), the architect behind the restorations at Mid Pines, Pine Needles and Southern Pines, Karoo at Cabot Citrus Farms, and Broomsedge with Mike Koprowski. Kyle walked onto Pacific Dunes as a 19-year-old intern for Tom Doak and has been pushing the edges of classical architecture ever since. This time he brings the story of Whispering Pines, an Ellis Maples course near his home rebuilt with a small crew, a tight plan and a price point meant for everyday golfers.The conversation dives into:Pacific Dunes from the inside: a $35 twilight round at Bandon, a dozer spotted on No. 5, and the Tom Doak email Kyle still carries in his bagWhy Donald Ross is golf's Rolling Stones, and why Frank and Ellis Maples deserve more of the Pinehurst creditEdgy on purpose: Citizen Kane, the Velvet Underground, and why Kyle is fine if not everyone loves what he buildsWhispering Pines' Moneyball approach: eight people through the winter, sand played as waste areas, and a green fee built for high school teams and Friday flights out of New YorkWhy a golf course is a band, not a solo act, from Joey Hancock on Broomsedge to a street artist shaping bunkers in TexasConnect with our guest🏗️ Kyle Franz — https://www.kylefranzgolf.com — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/KyleFranzGolfJoin the NewClub community🌍 Website: https://www.newclub.golf📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newclubgolf/🐦 X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/newclubgolf💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newclubLinks & Partners👕 Holderness & Bourne: https://www.hbgolf.com⛳ Country Club of Whispering Pines: https://countryclubofwhisperingpines.comThe Bag Drop📺 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bag-drop-untold-stories-in-golf/id1430328006📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thebagdrop🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2xRWtUBJH8RazdLw14oaGH🎧 Website: https://thebagdrop.fm/Connect with Matt & The Professor🎙️ Matt Considine — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/consequential85 | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/consequence18/ | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-considine-103bb21/📚 Dr. Kevin Moore ("The Professor") — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/kevcmoore | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevcmoore | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-moore-177b30b3/🗣️ Contribute to the show! — 📧 email: thebagdrop@newclub.golfChapters00:00 Cold open: Kyle Franz on the five who set golf's course in America00:45 Welcome, and the Mid Pines walk that got the Professor back into golf02:12 Story time: the drivers-only league night08:47 The Professor's teaching: two years of every decade on your phone11:34 Introducing Kyle Franz and Whispering Pines13:29 Holderness & Bourne: the polo that started at Winged Foot15:22 Kyle Franz joins: can an architect have a favorite?17:49 Pacific Dunes at 19: was the public ready for it?24:28 Doak's reversible course and the case for edgy design27:54 Confidence in the dirt: Tom Doak's email to a 19-year-old29:43 $35 twilight at Bandon and a dozer on No. 534:50 History as a tool: what the old links really looked like39:29 Citizen Kane, the Velvet Underground and patience with edgy work41:33 Donald Ross, the Rolling Stones of golf45:23 Frank and Ell
Karen Peek's first golf memory isn't a great shot. It's her mom and aunt on the lesson tee at Rackham, laughing to tears and hitting it terribly.In this episode of The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf, host Matt Considine and co-host Dr. Kevin Moore (a.k.a. "The Professor") sit down with Karen Peek (Director of Golf Operations for Golf Detroit and an LPGA teaching professional) to talk about growing up on Detroit's municipal courses, chasing the LPGA Tour through four Q-Schools, and why being genuinely glad to see people is the best business decision a golf course can make.The conversation dives into:Learning the game from Ben Davis at Rackham and Chris Williams at Palmer Park, the only two Black members of the Michigan PGA section at the timeFour tries at the LPGA Tour, never once feeling comfortable at Q-School, and a putting saga that runs from hypnosis to a new Scotty Cameron ordered two weeks agoWhy teaching is a skill, not telling people how you do it, and why the boyfriend lesson ends the golf before it ends the relationshipThe 150-yard markers at Chandler Park and why she isn't getting drunk on golf's boom"Hey dude, what's up?", the private-club pro shop that never said hello, and why she can charge more because her courses are nicerBen Davis's legacy: humble, fierce, and always moving golfers off the range and onto the courseConnect with our guest🏌️♀️ Karen Peek — Golf Detroit: https://golfdetroit.org — 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GolfDetroit/ — 💼 https://www.linkedin.com/in/karen-peek-6a649712/Join the NewClub community🌍 Website: https://www.newclub.golf📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newclubgolf/🐦 X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/newclubgolf💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newclubLinks & Partners⛳ Erin Hills: https://www.erinhills.com🏌️ Titleist: https://www.titleist.comThe Bag Drop📺 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bag-drop-untold-stories-in-golf/id1430328006📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thebagdrop🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2xRWtUBJH8RazdLw14oaGH🎧 Website: https://thebagdrop.fm/Connect with Matt & The Professor🎙️ Matt Considine — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/consequential85 | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/consequence18/ | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-considine-103bb21/📚 Dr. Kevin Moore ("The Professor") — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/kevcmoore | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevcmoore | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-moore-177b30b3/🗣️Contribute to the show! — 📧 email: thebagdrop@newclub.golfChapters00:00 Cold open: when your boyfriend is your golf teacher00:45 Welcome, and a bruised fall for Guardians and Bulldogs fans03:12 Best fall format: East Lothian rules vs. Steel vs. Rubber05:05 The team-event climax, plus First Tee Cleveland and Akron06:20 Meet Karen Peek of Golf Detroit07:56 The Professor's teaching: 20 minutes outside, less cortisol09:58 Erin Hills: the glaciers did the heavy lifting12:10 Karen joins: baseball first, and nothing for State15:18 A Cleveland-fan dad and a Tigers-fan daughter19:35 Mom's lessons with Ben Davis: so happy, so awful22:12 Free Press summer golf school: 400 kids, no golf balls23:39 Biking to Palmer Park and learning from Chris Williams25:07 Losing her dad at 14, and the comfort of the individual game27:51 Par was the standard, practice was the answer31:37 Four tries at the LPGA Tour, and advice from people
Many private club models seem to rely on keeping somebody out. Jeff Warne would rather keep out those who want just that.In this episode of The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf, host Matt Considine and co‑host Dr. Kevin Moore (a.k.a. “The Professor”) sit down with Jeff Warne (longtime Director of Golf at The Bridge and founder of New Holland Golf Club in Aiken, South Carolina). Jeff has been sketching his ideal club since 2001; now he's building it as a members' club with UK-style visitor access, in a market where most new builds lock the gate. He makes the case that good golf should be shared, explains the one-page doctrine that filters his membership better than any pitch deck, and gets into firm-but-slow greens, golf's distance problem, and 60 trips' worth of Scotland.The conversation dives into:Why good golf should be shared, not gatekept, and how visitor tee times in the gaps are meant to keep members' dues downThe one-page doctrine that doubles as a filter: hand it to a consultant or an AI and it comes back exclusive, luxury, manicured — the words that undo the whole ideaFirm but slow: why Brian Schneider's greens carry more slope, and why "we need more pin placements" usually means "slow the greens down"Sixty trips to Scotland, an unplanned run through Arran and Kintyre, and why to skip the famous-eight van tourThe distance debate, bifurcation, and why Al Geiberger's 59 still towers over today's 59 watchConnect with our guests⛳ Jeff Warne — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/jeffwarnegolf | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-warne-37335811/ | 📧 Email: jeffwarne85@gmail.com🌲 New Holland Golf Club — 🌐 https://www.newhollandgolfclub.com/ | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newhollandgolfclubInterested in New Holland? Jeff asks for an email, not a text, and he'd like you to read the doctrine first.Join the NewClub community🌍 Website: https://www.newclub.golf📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newclubgolf/🐦 X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/newclubgolf📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@newclubgolf💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newclubLinks & Partners🏌️ Titleist: https://www.titleist.comListen to The Bag Drop🎧 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bag-drop-untold-stories-in-golf/id1430328006🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2xRWtUBJH8RazdLw14oaGH🎧 Website: https://thebagdrop.fm/Connect with Matt & The Professor🎙️ Matt Considine — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/consequential85 | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/consequence18/ | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-considine-103bb21/📚 Dr. Kevin Moore ("The Professor") — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/kevcmoore | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevcmoore | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-moore-177b30b3/🗣️Contribute to the show! — 📧 email: thebagdrop@newclub.golfChapters00:00 Cold open: modern golf is being run backwards00:31 Welcome, and the Professor's two-week research retreat in Scotland01:43 When to play links golf: September, or the late-April sweet spot02:54 Today's guest, and why New Holland stands out in Aiken's private boom05:40 The Professor's teaching: Brad's Drink, BackRub and other names that didn't stick09:13 Titleist: SM11 wedges, and getting fit before the clubs go away10:35 Jeff Warne joins (with notes on everything we just said)12:03 Sixty trip
A tragic argument in golf right now is whether the game needs to get smaller. Designer Sam Beckman has a different answer: educate. In this episode of The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf, host Matt Considine and co-host Dr. Kevin Moore (a.k.a. "The Professor") sit down with Samuel Beckman (owner and designer behind Emergency 9 Golf) to talk about building golf courses that clubs can actually afford to keep — and about the high school coaching job that turned out to fill the void he missed from leading large teams in corporate America.The conversation dives into:Why Sam came in at roughly half the master planning fee at Ridgeway, on purpose, and what "any budget" really costs the person who says itNorth Hills, where the greens had shrunk from six thousand square feet to three thousand, and every one of them is being rebuilt — from a single pin position to as many as sixteenThe tee boxes at Port Huron that Matt couldn't stop noticing, and why Scotland taught Sam that you play through a golf course rather than over itGlen Flora's restoration: two bunkers a year, built in-house with a Kubota front loader straight through COVID, and a membership that went from 160 to 275Why the superintendent is a co-author on every project, and the day one of them answered a steep bunker face with "we're gonna buy robots"Twenty-nine girls on the Lake Forest team, a Coaches Cup played for an old brass flower vase, and the freshman's video that got Sam through a bad dayConnect with our guests⛳ Samuel Beckman — https://www.emergency9golf.com — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/emergency9golf | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emergency9golf/ | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuel-beckman-emergency9golf/Links & Partners💼 Inglewood: https://www.ingw.com/Join the NewClub community🌍 Website: https://www.newclub.golf📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newclubgolf/🐦 X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/newclubgolf📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@newclubgolf💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newclubListen to The Bag Drop🎧 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bag-drop-untold-stories-in-golf/id1430328006🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2xRWtUBJH8RazdLw14oaGH🎧 Online: https://thebagdrop.transistor.fm/Connect with Matt & The Professor🎙️ Matt Considine — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/consequential85 | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/consequence18/ | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-considine-103bb21/📚 Dr. Kevin Moore ("The Professor") — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/kevcmoore | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevcmoore | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-moore-177b30b3/🗣️Contribute to the show! — 📧 email: thebagdrop@newclub.golfChapters00:00 Educate the game, don't shrink it00:20 Welcome to The Bag Drop00:32 Post-trip depression and the two Kevins02:23 Today's guest: Sam Beckman, a.k.a. The Mule04:39 The Port Huron tee boxes Matt couldn't stop noticing05:37 A shout-out to Andrew Bailey's Mid-Am win06:33 The Professor's teaching: who actually makes America's beef08:37 Ad read: Inglewood Associates10:29 Twenty-nine girls, and a 59 at sectionals14:43 How an architect ended up coaching high school golf16:16 Coaching like a caddie, not an architect18:17 "I hate your bunkers": hosting conference at Glen Flora19:36 Ireland and Scotland,
Ryan Gerard hates losing more than he likes winning — and he'll tell you that's a feature, not a bug. Or, as he said to his caddy, JP, recently: “Just, Let Me Be Mad.”In this episode of The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf, host Matt Considine and co‑host Dr. Kevin Moore (a.k.a. “The Professor”) sit down with Ryan Gerard (PGA Tour professional) to trace how a public course in Raleigh with no standing tee times built one of the tour's most interesting, unfiltered, and fierce competitors. Off a PGA Tour season with back-to-back runner-up finishes and a third at East Lake, Gerard is candid about what actually drives him, what he'd change about American golf, and how he keeps his head on straight when it isn't going his way.The conversation dives into:Why beating a friend seven straight times in a putting contest still wasn't enough — and how being the youngest, smallest kid at Wildwood Green built a competitor who "hates losing more than he likes winning"The pitch for a lighted, low-cost par-3 "kids course" in every major North American city, sparked by a course he stumbled onto in Gullane, ScotlandTed Scott's line about the best golf happening when expectations and reality line up — and how that explains the jump from irrational confidence to unconditional and real contentionWhy his coach will always protect his self-described “graffiti on a rail car” swing instead of popular wholesale changes or overly smoothing things out“Let me be mad”: the 20-second anger reset strategy we caught from Chasing Sunday, and why he thinks frustration is not a negative but one of his superpowersConnect with our guest⛳ Ryan Gerard — https://www.pgatour.com/player/59018/ryan-gerard — 🐦 X/Twitter: [https://x.com/golfgerard | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/golfgerard/Community & Partners🐝 NewClub: https://www.newclub.golf🏌️ Titleist: https://www.titleist.com🌐 Golf Blueprint: https://www.golfblueprint.comListen to The Bag Drop🎧 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bag-drop-untold-stories-in-golf/id1430328006🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2xRWtUBJH8RazdLw14oaGH🎧 Web: https://thebagdrop.fm/Connect with Matt & The Professor🎙️ Matt Considine — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/consequential85 | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/consequence18/ | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-considine-103bb21/📚 Dr. Kevin Moore ("The Professor") — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/kevcmoore | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevcmoore | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-moore-177b30b3/🗣️Contribute to the show! — 📧 email: thebagdrop@newclub.golfChapters0:00:00 The cold open: hating losing more than loving winning0:00:55 Welcome to the Bag Drop0:01:10 Did the Professor win his match at St. Andrews?0:02:26 How St. Andrews club hosting actually works0:07:40 Matt's marathon relay confession (and getting kicked off a muni)0:11:03 Booking Ryan Gerard: the anti-homogenized golfer0:11:47 Professor's Teaching: North Berwick, the oldest surviving course0:13:46 Ad Read: Titleist Vokey SM11 wedges0:15:30 Ryan Gerard joins the show0:15:52 The Atlanta airport run-in with the Professor0:17:42 The Scottish Open walk-and-talk that started it all0:18:58 The Gullane kids course and golf's barrier to entry0:22:23 Bringing Park Grind's lighted par-3 model stateside0:23:21 Growing up at Wildwood: free reign of a public course0:28:35 No standing tee times, unlimited junior golf0:32:00 The pitch: a lighted par-3 course in every metro city0:34:43 Violin, chess, and badminton club president0:39:30 Where the competitive gene actually comes
Fittingly, we recorded our shortest episode ever to explain why the next ones will be much longer!Eight years in, The Bag Drop is biting off something new: fewer releases, deeper research, and three- to five-hour episodes on a single golf club’s history, strategy, and story. Matt and the Professor explain why the most fascinating untold stories in golf live at the club level, the question they brought home from Northern Ireland together at twenty and haven't shaken since, and the five rules they have set to do it faithfully. (PS. The weekly interviews and conversations are not going anywhere!)The conversation dives into:Why the untold stories in golf live at the club level, and why studying a golf club is really a way of studying peopleA trip around Northern Ireland at twenty, the question "why is this the way it is here?", and the Professor on why one round as a guest never tells you how a club actually worksThe Professor's numbers on the quiet comeback of long-form, and what hours of conversation can do that a two-minute clip can'tAdmiration for Acquired, and a five-hour episode that finally made the model make sense, and permission to go that deepFive rules for the new series!Join the NewClub community🌍 Website: https://www.newclub.golf📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newclubgolf/🐦 X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/newclubgolf📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@newclubgolf💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newclubLinks & Partners🐝 NewClub: https://www.newclub.golf🏌️ Titleist: https://www.titleist.com🌐 Golf Blueprint: https://www.golfblueprint.comListen to The Bag Drop🎧 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bag-drop-untold-stories-in-golf/id1430328006🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2xRWtUBJH8RazdLw14oaGH 🎧 Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/633c8703-5880-4522-bd6d-5967b45fc777/the-bag-drop-untold-stories-in-golf🎧 Transistor: https://thebagdrop.transistor.fm/Connect with Matt & The Professor🎙️ Matt Considine — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/consequential85 | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/consequence18/ | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-considine-103bb21/📚 Dr. Kevin Moore ("The Professor") — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/kevcmoore | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevcmoore | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-moore-177b30b3/🗣️Contribute to the show! — 📧 email: thebagdrop@newclub.golfChapters00:00 Welcome: one of us is practicing, one of us refuses01:29 Beating balls, and taking the doubt out with Golf Blueprint02:45 The four-ball partnership is off03:41 Matt's real golf strength: recruiting05:00 Professor's facts: long form is quietly coming back08:01 A return to conversation after a decade of the algorithm09:05 Ad read: Titleist GTS, unboxed at night and gamed by morning10:40 The Professor is a seven-wood guy now11:21 Fixing the top of the bag with a four wood and seven wood combo12:41 A short episode about going long14:07 Eight years of The Bag Drop, starting at the Merit Club16:33 Three years of the Professor, and curiosity on steroids18:32 The decision: fewer shows, deeper research, three to five hours20:23 Why clubs: study a club, study the history of people22:56 Northern Ireland, and why one round as a guest explains nothing25:01 Not the historians, and why that is the advantage27:26 Acquired, Costco, and learning through a narrative28:18 Smart Brevity, and what short form can't do30:16 A decade of hearing "there's a past here you don't know"32:40 The rules: no AI list of facts, no embell
Nineteen million Americans have tried golf since 2020. About one in four of them stayed.In this episode of The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf, host Matt Considine and co‑host Dr. Kevin Moore (a.k.a. “The Professor”) sit down with Matthew Reagan, PGA (co-founder and general manager of Operation 36) to talk about why golf keeps losing the beginners it works so hard to attract — and what changed the day he stopped teaching the swing first and started people 25 yards from the hole.The conversation dives into:The year-four gut punch: a junior program running at 95% retention that still lost forty golfers, and the single thing the kids who stayed all had in commonA year of three-hour nine-hole rounds, a drive to Pinehurst, and the flip that turned into Operation 36 — start at 25 yards, shoot 36, back upWhy the environment around a beginner matters more than the technical ability of the coach, and what that says about how golf picks its heroesThe women who told him they had always wanted to play but had never been given permission to start that close to the greenOpening the app to everyone in 2027 — couch to course, course to coach — and what an app should refuse to pretend it can replaceConnect with our guests⛳ Matthew Reagan, PGA — co-founder and general manager, Operation 36 — 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-reagan-op36/📱 Operation 36 — https://operation36.golf — how it works: https://operation36.golf/how-it-works/🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/op36golf — 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/operation_36/ — 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/operation-36-golf — 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/op36golf/Join the NewClub community🌍 Website: https://www.newclub.golf📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newclubgolf/🐦 X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/newclubgolf📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@newclubgolf💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newclubLinks & Partners🐝 NewClub: https://www.newclub.golf🏌️ Titleist: https://www.titleist.com🌐 Golf Blueprint: https://www.golfblueprint.comListen to The Bag Drop🎧 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bag-drop-untold-stories-in-golf/id1430328006🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2xRWtUBJH8RazdLw14oaGH 🎧 Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/633c8703-5880-4522-bd6d-5967b45fc777/the-bag-drop-untold-stories-in-golf🎧 Web: https://thebagdrop.fm/Connect with Matt & The Professor🎙️ Matt Considine — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/consequential85 | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/consequence18/ | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-considine-103bb21/📚 Dr. Kevin Moore ("The Professor") — 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/kevcmoore | 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevcmoore | 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-moore-177b30b3/🗣️Contribute to the show! — 📧 email: thebagdrop@newclub.golfChapters00:00 Cold open: the moment Operation 36 got its name00:52 Welcome, and a fall morning in Athens01:20 Ten kids under eight: not rested, but refreshed03:35 Unplugging, the Slack away message, and the phone-off experiment06:45 New York, Mumford and Sons, and whether you could live there
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