That Can't Be True with Chelsea Clinton

Trump Wants ‘5 Little Shots.’ What Does That Mean? with Dr. Céline Gounder

September 3, 2026·36 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

As kids head back to school, vaccines are top of mind for many parents and caregivers. That’s especially true as measles outbreaks continue in communities across the country and heartbreaking reports are coming out about measles-associated deaths. Chelsea speaks with infectious-disease physician, epidemiologist, and medical correspondent Dr. Céline Gounder about the changes to federal childhood-vaccine recommendations, a new Atlantic article about the family at the center of Pennsylvania’s measles controversy, and why she thinks of measles as a mini HIV. Plus, Dr. Gounder debunks the latest vaccine misinformation and offers practical advice on MMR, flu, and COVID shots. You can follow Céline Gounder @drcelinegounder on Instagram and check out her Substack here: celinegounder.com. The Clinton Foundation is a non-partisan organization that develops leaders and accelerates solutions to the world’s most pressing challenges. To learn more and be a part of the work, visit www.clintonfoundation.org. Stay up to date with Lemonada on Facebook and Instagram. For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at lemonadapremium.com.

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