
The “It” Girl: The entertainment industry’s term for the woman-of-the-moment. But did you know that Clara Bow was literally the first ever “It” Girl? In today’s episode, Olivia & Dani revisit the long-running ‘Remaining Relevant’ miniseries to break down the closing track of the standard version of ‘The Tortured Poets Department’, which uses Clara as its namesake. Taylor has been in the industry long enough to know how the game is played: you find an attractive, talented girl; you make this girl into a star; you bleed her dry; you discard her.And on and on it spins. In this emotional track, Taylor explores different perspectives and narratives of the women of the past/future that have fallen victim to this system, as well as the execs in the chairs across from them that turned these women into “it” girls…and then move on to the next. Subscribe to our new Patreon for behind the scenes content, citations, videos, live streams, and more! Here is our FREE TO ALL bonus episode on Patreon, regarding Taylor’s silence on current political issues. Head to our website, www.TaylearningPodcast.com/merch, and get yourself some new wearable merch! Instagram: @Taylearning_Podcast, @danielle_winchester, @olivia_kotarski TikTok/Bluesky: @TaylearningPodcast Twitter (X): @Taylearning Email: taylearningpodcast@gmail.com Website: www.TaylearningPodcast.com Spotify Playlist: Click here! *Explicit: Language, Eating Disorder Conversations Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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157. 2026 is the Year of Taylor's Pen! Celebrating Her Songwriters Hall of Fame Induction + New York Times Interview

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