Talking Feds

The Cost of Capitulation

September 21, 2026·52 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

When Donald Trump retook the White House, many of the most powerful Americans—including many who resisted him in his first term—hurried to bend a knee. Jacob Weisberg wanted to understand why. He joins Harry for a conversation about his study of that capitulation: Profiles in Cowardice. Jacob breaks down the often confounding reasons these people knowingly betrayed their principles. After digging into some of the worst offenders, like Mitch McConnell, George W. Bush, and John Roberts, the pair turn to the tactics needed to counter what Jacob calls the “contagion of cowardice.” Mentioned in this episode:Jacob's book.Harry's column about a story of small-scale resistance succeeding.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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