Swimmingpod

Swimming in Custard, with Maddalena Borsato and Stanley Ulijaszek

September 11, 2026·8 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

Doing research is like swimming in custard. That’s the take-home from Maddalena Borsato in this podcast. She is a researcher in aesthetics at the University of Gastronomic Science, Pollenzo, Italy, and she combines pastry making withphilosophy in her website aristortele.it, where she philosophises with a spoon and creates thoughtful pastry recipes. In this podcast she describes the French dessert Iles Flottante, islands of soft meringue floating in a lake of custard,and the lone swimmer – me – making steady progress in research, or a life of swimming in custard. Its not swimming as we usually know it, nor is it pastry or cake, strictly speaking. But life is full of hybrids, and here is another.

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