Sunday Dinner

Don't Take Too Long: Tom Kaufman and Caleb Wilson

June 1, 2026·56 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

This week on Sunday Dinner, we’re joined by two generations of Madison West cross country coaches: Tom Kauffman and Caleb Wilson.A good coach can build a winning team. A great coach can build a community.That’s what TK showed both Caleb and me when we ran for him, and now we get to hear Caleb’s perspective as the new head coach at Madison West. This conversation is full of nostalgia for me, but it was also fascinating to reflect on how much the landscape of high school running has changed over the past decade.We discuss how coaches are navigating the evolving world of running technology, training methods, and information sharing, while staying grounded in the principles that matter most. For both TK and Caleb, it always comes back to the same goal: creating a community of lifelong runners.I’m grateful for what these two are doing for the sport and for the thousands of athletes they’ve taught that “You can’t get there without getting there.”Contact us at hackersundaydinner@gmail.comMusic written and recorded by Tim Gibson

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