Outtakes: The President's Advice I Didn't Want

A few times during my two-part interview with Judge and Rebecca Gonzales, they turned the tables on me. They listened. And they drew three stories out of me that I've rarely shared.The first is a story that never made it into the main episodes: the Oval Office advice I didn't want that... changed my life.The second is about what happens when your Quaker mother and your Jewish father sit down together at Hanukkah.The third is about what shaped my decision to work for Attorney General Gonzales as a political appointee.If you haven't heard Parts One and Two yet, start there. This bonus episode will mean more after you've heard their full story.Content warning: Like part 1, this episode touches on childhood trauma and may not be suitable for all listeners.If you'd like to support the show, please follow Stumbling Blocks on your favorite podcast app and leave a review. It's the best way to help other leaders like you.