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"State of the Second isn’t your typical 2A podcast—it’s a backstage pass into the firearms industry. Hosted by Kailey Nieman and John Fahrner, we sit down with the real people behind the brands, builds, and big ideas shaping the gun world. From shop owners to social media legends, each episode dives into how they got started, what keeps them going, and what it really takes to make it in the firearms industry, plus the battles they face along the way. If you’ve ever wondered how to break into the industry or what it’s like behind the scenes, this is your front-row seat."
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- Today1h 3m
The "Redneck Cousin" Sneaking Gun Education Past the Algorithm (ft. Carlie Bodiford)
This week John and Kailey sit down with Carlie Bodiford to talk about going from college TikToks to 700K+ followers, using humor to reach people who've never touched a gun, and why the future of the Second Amendment comes down to one conversation at a time. Stick around for a spicy From the Soapbox. ___________Register for GOALS GOA's 50th Anniversary, August 1–2 in Des Moines, IA. Tickets at gunowners.org/goals. ----------------------- Special thanks to our sponsor for supporting this season! Kershaw Knives - Built for the everyday carry, ready for anything. Get your Kershaw today. Patriot Mobile – Get 1 month free with code “GOA” at checkout on their website!Right To Bear - Use code “GOA” for 15% off Life Membership
- 6 days ago44 min
The First Thing to Do After a Self-Defense Shooting (From a Lawyer) (ft. Attorneys For Freedom)
This week, Kailey sits down with Joey from Attorneys for Freedom, the law firm behind the Attorneys on Retainer program, to walk through what actually happens after a self-defense event, and the mistakes that turn a lawful shooting into a courtroom nightmare. AOR is at GOALS 2026. Come by Booth 2712 on Saturday, August 1 at 11 AM. Use promo code STATE OF THE SECOND for $50 off an individual plan or $25 off a family plan at attorneysonretainer.us. ___________Register for GOALS GOA's 50th Anniversary, August 1–2 in Des Moines, IA. Tickets at gunowners.org/goals. ----------------------- Special thanks to our sponsor for supporting this season! Kershaw Knives - Built for the everyday carry, ready for anything. Get your Kershaw today. Patriot Mobile – Get 1 month free with code “GOA” at checkout on their website!Right To Bear - Use code “GOA” for 15% off Life Membership
- 1 weeks ago48 min
One Rifle Took More Game Than His Other 62 Combined (ft. Steyr Arms)
This week, John and Kailey sit down with Jim of Steyr Arms to get into the AUG's rise to one of the most-fielded rifles in the world, the surprising Steyr link to the Mercedes G-Wagon, the new AREX pistol collaboration, and the engineering behind the Safe Bolt System, including the over-pressure test that lets a shooter walk away from a completely blocked barrel. Jim also breaks down the legendary Steyr Scout, the only rifle that meets every one of Jeff Cooper's original requirements, and why he's taken more game with it than his other 62 hunting rifles combined.___________Register for GOALS GOA's 50th Anniversary, August 1–2 in Des Moines, IA. Tickets at gunowners.org/goals.-----------------------Special thanks to our sponsor for supporting this season!Kershaw Knives - Built for the everyday carry, ready for anything. Get your Kershaw today.Patriot Mobile – Get 1 month free with code “GOA” at checkout on their website!Right To Bear - Use code “GOA” for 15% off Life Membership
- 2 weeks ago1h 23m
They Left a Live AR on YouTube for 24 Hours. Here's What Happened. (ft. NineLine)
This week, John and Nate from Nine Line Apparel are back for round two, and it goes everywhere: the new Gun Owners of America x Nine Line collab, why Gen Z is rediscovering patriotism, and the right way to welcome a first-time shooter to the range. Plus the live AR that sat on YouTube for 24 hours and did nothing.Grab the GOA x Nine Line gear__________Register for GOALS GOA's 50th Anniversary, August 1–2 in Des Moines, IA. Tickets at gunowners.org/goals.-----------------------Special thanks to our sponsor for supporting this season!Kershaw Knives - Built for the everyday carry, ready for anything. Get your Kershaw today.Patriot Mobile – Get 1 month free with code “GOA” at checkout on their website!Right To Bear - Use code “GOA” for 15% off Life Membership
- Jun 29, 20261h 8m
The Rifle the Industry Was Too Scared to Build (ft. One Horse)
This week, John and Kailey sit down with Drew and Jeremy from One Horse to talk about building a 100% American-made AR that any gun owner can afford, and to drop a major announcement you won't want to miss.From 13 years at Anderson to launching their own brand in eight months, they break down what the "poverty pony" label gets wrong, how a quality American-made rifle lands at around $600, and why they refuse to chase the race to the bottom.___________Register for GOALS GOA's 50th Anniversary, August 1–2 in Des Moines, IA. Tickets at gunowners.org/goals.-----------------------Special thanks to our sponsor for supporting this season!Ammo Squared -The smarter way to stockpile ammo, one round at a time. Start your ammo savings todayPatriot Mobile – Get 1 month free with code “GOA” at checkout on their website!Right To Bear - Use code “GOA” for 15% off Life Membership
- Jun 17, 202644 min
The Coolest Job in the Firearms Industry (ft. caliber.row)
This week on State of the Second, John and Kailey sit down with Alexandria Rowlen of Caliber Row to discuss the realities of firearms marketing, content creation, and building brands in the 2A industry. From unforgettable shoots involving tanks and skydiving to the evolving role of women in the firearms community, this conversation offers a behind-the-scenes look at one of the most unique careers in the industry.----------------------- Special thanks to our sponsor for supporting this season! Ammo Squared -The smarter way to stockpile ammo, one round at a time. Start your ammo savings todayPatriot Mobile – Get 1 month free with code “GOA” at checkout on their website!Right To Bear - Use code “GOA” for 15% off Life Membership
- Jun 11, 202651 min
How a Single Patch Built a Whole Business (ft. Patch Ops)
This week on State of the Second, John and Kailey sit down with Tim and Michelle from Patch Ops share how a small side hustle grew into a successful brand. From Marine Corps roots and entrepreneurial risk-taking to building a loyal community and staying true to their values, this is the story behind one of the most recognizable names in the patch world. ----------------------- Special thanks to our sponsor for supporting this season! Ammo Squared -The smarter way to stockpile ammo, one round at a time. Start your ammo savings todayPatriot Mobile – Get 1 month free with code “GOA” at checkout on their website!Right To Bear - Use code “GOA” for 15% off Life Membership
- Jun 4, 202637 min
How New Jersey Tries to Destroy Gun Owners (ft. Tony Simon)
This week,John and Kailey sit down with Tony Simon to discuss how growing up around firearms, serving in the Marine Corps, and later moving to New Jersey completely changed his perspective on gun ownership and Second Amendment advocacy. From navigating restrictive gun laws to building a movement that welcomes new shooters into the firearms community, Tony explains why outreach matters now more than ever.-----------------------Special thanks to our sponsor for supporting this season!Ammo Squared -The smarter way to stockpile ammo, one round at a time. Start your ammo savings todayPatriot Mobile – Get 1 month free with code “GOA” at checkout on their website!Right To Bear - Use code “GOA” for 15% off Life Membership
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About State of the Second
"State of the Second isn’t your typical 2A podcast—it’s a backstage pass into the firearms industry. Hosted by Kailey Nieman and John Fahrner, we sit down with the real people behind the brands, builds, and big ideas shaping the gun world. From shop owners to social media legends, each episode dives into how they got started, what keeps them going, and what it really takes to make it in the firearms industry, plus the battles they face along the way. If you’ve ever wondered how to break into the industry or what it’s like behind the scenes, this is your front-row seat."
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