4.5 Billion Searches Moved to AI. Is Your Shop Showing Up? | Kenyon Curtis, DiscoveryMax.Ai

Your next customer is asking ChatGPT, not Google. Here is how to show up in the answer. In this episode of Wrenches n Robots, Tersh Blissett sits down with Kenyon Curtis, founder of Discovery Max, to talk about the shift from SEO to AEO, optimizing your business so AI engines recommend you when a customer asks. No doom about search dying. Just what is actually changing and what a shop can do about it. Kenyon builds a done-for-you AI visibility service, and he breaks down the whole picture: why your SEO results dropped over the last year, why 4.5 billion monthly searches now happen on AI, how to write blogs and FAQs that answer real questions, and why optimizing for AI, done right, makes your Google results stronger too. Tersh brings the operator and PhoneTap side, from LLMs crowding his screen to keeping your head on straight so you don't ignore the real fires in your business. You will walk away knowing what AEO is, how it differs from SEO, what to look for in an AI visibility tool, and how to act on the shift without falling for the hype. CHAPTERS 00:00 Move your SEO budget to AEO and it can solve both 01:09 Welcome to Wrenches n Robots, and why AI search changes the game 03:10 Meet Kenyon Curtis: cotton farmer turned AI builder 05:06 The 30% drop: what is happening to SEO right now 06:03 4.5 billion monthly searches are now on AI 06:49 Why Discovery Max exists, and the wedding planner moment 09:28 How AEO works, and why it has no algorithm 09:51 Writing blogs and FAQs for AI, not just Google 10:37 Does optimizing for AI hurt your SEO? Done right, no 11:42 Will search ever be AEO only? 12:47 Ranking across 10 different LLMs, not just ChatGPT 14:03 Done for you vs do it yourself: Discovery Max vs monitoring tools 15:08 Watching for AI hallucinations about your business 16:32 Ranking for the questions people ask, not just keywords 18:14 The AI voice spam problem and database reactivation 19:23 Digging deeper than AI: are you ready to grow? 20:45 Don't fall for the SEO is dead headlines 21:50 The 90 day timeline and a daily ranking dashboard 23:17 Where to find Kenyon and Discovery Max BROUGHT TO YOU BY PODIUM Podium builds an AI operating system for home service businesses, from an AI CSR and an AI membership coordinator to the Podium Operator. See how it works at https://homeservices.podium.com PHONETAP Your calls hold the key to growing your business. PhoneTAP gives you instant AI analysis, real customer lifetime value, and tools to coach your team. Learn more: https://phonetap.ai/demo CONNECT WITH THE HOST AND GUEST Tersh Blissett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tershblissett/ Kenyon Curtis, Founder of Discovery Max: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kcurtisaz/ Discovery Max and a free AI visibility audit: https://discoverymax.ai ABOUT WRENCHES N ROBOTS Wrenches n Robots is practical AI for the people putting it to work in the trades. Host Tersh Blissett runs the room where HVAC, plumbing, and electrical owners compare notes on what actually held after the vendor left. Every episode has to earn its runtime with something a shop can put into production Monday morning. A spinoff of Service Business Mastery, exclusively AI in the trades. More at https://wrenchesandrobots.com/ Want new episodes in your inbox? Join the Wrenches n Robots newsletter, the same list about 50,000 people in the trades already read: https://wrenchesandrobots.com/ Subscribe on YouTube and follow along so you never miss an episode. A Skilled Trades Syndicate production. If this one helped, share it with an owner who needs it. #WrenchesnRobots #AIForContractors #AEO #AISearch #HVAC