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by Joey Metzger
Confession...I am a slow but persistent trail runner who likes to take on crazy trail running adventures. This is a podcast about the weird world of running, trail running and ultramarathons. Mostly from the perspective of the back of the pack...ordinary people trying to do extra-ordinary things. Topics will focus on gear, health, nutrition, training, trails and trail races around MN and the Midwest, and also taking a look all of this through the lens of older runners. Get ready for an ultra slow, but highly optimistic ride. We will get to that finish line, even if we are...running behind.
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- 1 weeks ago1h 44m
Suzy Lurie: FKTs, OMGs And DFL At Cocodona 250
Picture the scene...It's the finish line of the 2026 Cocodona 250 mile race. Everyone is celebrating and going crazy. Overall race winner, Rachel Entrekin is there and she is embracing my guest, Suzy Lurie...Now, did Suzy come in 2nd or 3rd...well, not exactly. Suzy is used to setting FKTs (Fastest Known Times) at various places in her home state of MN. Isn't it ironic then, that her claim to fame happens when she finishes the longest race of her career and comes in last. But coming in last cannot stop the insatiable energy, enthusiasm and excitedness that is UltraSuzy. In this episode we chat about how she got her start, what led to her deciding to toe the line at the 2026 Cocodona 250, and the incredible stories and dramas that unfolded along the way. And we also discuss her complete infatuation with the Elm Creek Backyard Ultra and Afton 50K races. So, strap on those Zegama 2s, grab your anchor airpods and head out for your run, cuz it's time to hit the trailSuzy's FKTs: https://fastestknowntime.com/athlete/suzy-lurieSuzy on Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/102412799Cocodona 250 website: https://www.aravaiparunning.com/cocodona/Heated Rivalry TV show: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heated_RivalryJoey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_RunRunning Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_podJoey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895Artwork by Ed Linder
- 2 weeks ago2h 2m
Heather Vinge Hanson : Flourishing Through The Fire
Heather Vinge Hanson is a MN trail runner, and in 2025 Heather ran several marathon or longer distances, including her first 50K race. She does all that, while dealing with a multitude of chronic conditions and syndromes. Everything from gastro-intestinal disorders, to Ehlers Danlos to Chronic Fatigue and Fibromyalgia , and that is after battling an eating disorder for many years. This is someone who has been in the fire, and she is not just surviving, but flourishing through it. It no surprise that TerraLoco, the great footwear and sporting store in Rochester, MN, began sponsoring her as an athlete last year. In this conversation, we go through her history of discovering and dealing with her many chronic conditions, her love of trail running and her current achievements and futuregoals. And stayed tuned after the episode for another edition of Running Out Loud, where I feature another Joe Hardin piece called The Miles Provide. So, strap in and lace up for a nice long run today, and don’t forget your ‘power object’, be it guitar or vest, but let’s get going, it’s time to hit the trail.Heather on IG: https://www.instagram.com/chronic.runner.mn/Heather on Threads: https://www.threads.com/@chronic.runner.mnInfo on Ehlers Danlos Hypermobile syndrome: https://www.ehlers-danlos.com/heds/TerraLoco (Heather's sponsor): https://runterraloco.com/Info on "Fire - Every Step Counts" the film: https://www.thepicklejuiceproject.com/Heather's coach (Fly Free Run) website: https://flyfreerunandwellness.issacertifiedtrainer.com/Joe Hardin's "The Miles Provide" on Substack: https://substack.com/inbox/post/195253072Joe Hardin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trail_tortoise_running/Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_RunRunning Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_podJoey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895Artwork by Ed Linder
- May 11, 20261h 21m
Crew Access Vol 6 : Storm The Park Edition
Today is another Crew Access episode with Mario and Erik, and this is a special one. This is Crew access, Storm The Park edition. The three of us headed down to White Water state park and did the 15K at Storm Sporting Events Storm The Park trail race. We weren’t there to worry about pace or effort, just to hang out with friends, explore the trails at a beautiful place and enjoy the day and great event put on by Mandy and Bill Hansel. We recorded this the next day and talk through our favorite parts of the event, our challenges and how I nearly broke my ankle and fell off the cliff just by stepping aside for some two-way traffic. And I even include a mini interview I recorded that day with the race director Mandy Hansel. So strap up those Mount To coast H1's, grab your gloves if it colder than 40, and don’t forget your bottle or flask (Erik), but it’s time to hit the trail.Storm The Park Trail Race: https://www.stormsportingevents.org/event-details/storm-the-parkStorm Sporting Events: https://www.stormsportingevents.org/Joey's Storm The Park 30K Strava file from 2023: https://www.strava.com/activities/8955070415Joey's Storm The Park 15K Strava file from 2026: https://www.strava.com/activities/18174559294Erik's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mr_spiegs/Mario's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stories/runmariorun91/Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_RunRunning Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_podJoey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895Artwork by Ed Linder
- Apr 19, 20262h 18m
Erin Shaw : Planning, Persevering & The Capes of Wrath
Erin Shaw, by her own admission, is not fast. She has come in last more than once, she has been cutoff more than once, she has just made the cutoff with 8 minutes to spare, more than once, but Erin gets it done and she savors the moments along the way. Whether it’s taking on multiple-day trail races in rugged backcountry areas like the Scottish highlands, or battling cancer and coming out the other side with a new perspective and priority on life, my guest today has learned that “the only way IS through” and that nearly anything can be accomplished with planning, and persevering. In this conversation, we learn how she discovered trail running and adventures like Cape Wrath, how she navigated a breast cancer diagnosis, and how she has learned that she is capable of more than she knows and that she can help others to realize that as well. And stayed tuned after the conversation for another installment of Running Out Loud, where I share a piece by Nikita Gill called “The Ocean In You”. Get shoes on, grab your sun sleeves and head out for a nice long training run, cuz it’s time to hit the trail.Trail Running Film Archive: https://trailrunningnordwand.blogspot.com/p/the-trail-running-film-archive.htmlCape Wrath Ultra Races: https://www.capewrathultra.com/Cape Wrath film featuring Erin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR7UHRRz3kEErin's coaching website: https://erinshaw.blog/3 Days of Syllamo: https://www.syllamoevents.com/3daysErin on Ultrasignup: https://ultrasignup.com/results_participant.aspx?fname=Erin&lname=Shaw#Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_RunRunning Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_podJoey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895Artwork by Ed Linder
- Apr 5, 20261h 54m
Kevin Swift : Swifty Runs The 50, YouTube & Backyard Ultra 101
Anyone remember the old days when you had to go to the library, to find the information you needed? These days, a simple Google search or a look on YouTube and you can usually find it. I began posting videos on YouTube as a reference for folks to see trail races, courses, areas and experiences, and to show my family and friends what I was up to. Well, so did my guest today, Kevin Swift. Kevin, aka SWIFTY, did not come to running until a little bit later in life, but once he did, he was hooked. The races became longer and the adventures became more involved. Eventually he found himself on a quest to run races in all 50 states, and with a YouTube channel to boot. We go through all of that, discuss his drumming in bands and rock & roll dreams, and top it off with a backyard ultra 101 session, where we are joined by Mario and Erik to answer all of his questions. So, grab those brooks, some sunscreen, and your camera (or drum sticks), cuz it’s time to hit the trail.Kevin's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@kevins1775Mainly Marathon's website: https://mainlymarathons.com/Kevin's band Six Figure Sunrise FB page: https://www.facebook.com/sixfiguresunrise/Kevin's music with Rox on Apple: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/rox/1824567008Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_RunRunning Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_podJoey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895Artwork by Ed Linder
- Mar 21, 20261h 58m
Dylan Harris & Drew B Darby: “The Cutoff” A Film For The Rest Of Us
I am not quite sure why they agreed to be on my humble little podcast, but I'll take it. Today, I am honored to be joined by Dylan Harris and Drew B Darby. Dylan is a well-known filmmaker, and the creator/director of the feature film, The Chase, that covered the 2024 men's race at the Cocodona 250. Drew, also has quite the resume, with clients that include household names like Sally McRae and Heather Jackson. In 2024, Dylan recruited Drew to collaborate and help him on The Chase, and in 2025, they teamed up again at Cocodona to create another masterpiece. The film is called “The Cutoff”, and for all of us ‘normal’ folks, who constantly find ourselves at the wrong end of the timing clock, this is the film for us. The film tells the stories that don’t usually get told and does it with a level of production that is rarely seen. What you end up with is an amazing piece of cinema, and might just be the most unique take in this genre since “Unbreakable”. Or maybe I’m just super biased…but I promise you, the film is fantastic, and so is this conversation. So, get your shoes on for your long run, and heck, bring your Sachtler tripod with too, if you need it, but it’s time to hit the trail.The Cutoff Film Tour information: https://www.aravaiparunning.com/the-cutoff/Dylan Harris on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SpiritOfDylanSomo Collective website: https://www.somocollective.co/Drew B Darby on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@drewbdarbyDrew B Darby film website: https://www.drewbdarby.com/Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_RunRunning Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_podJoey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895Artwork by Ed Linder
- Mar 14, 20262h 0m
Jamison Swift : Second Seasons & Sagas of Ice and Fire
Jamison Swift, along with his wife, Lisa, is a race director in MN for the St Croix 40 Winter Ultra (BTW, bring your own sled), and the Fire Tower Trail Races. Besides that, he is an avid photography, active volunteer at races, a bike, run and sled adventurer, a musician, and quite frankly, a bit nerdy like yours truly. We cover all of that, along with Jamison and Lisa's amazing efforts to make their races accessible to everyone, especially women, with their 50 Women Run 50K program. And stay tuned after the conversation for another Running Out Loud segment where I feature another Joe Hardin piece called "Standing Through Seasons". We've got a lot of ground (or snow) to cover in this one, so go grab your shoes (and sled or tire if you need it), it's time to hit the trail.St Croix 40 Winter Ultra: https://stcroixwinterultra.com/Fire Tower Trail Races: https://firetowertrailraces.com/Jamison's photography: https://swiftphotography.smugmug.com/Jamison's blog Second Runnings: https://secondrunnings.me/Jamison on Instgram: https://www.instagram.com/jamisonswift/Link to "Fire" the film featuring the 50 Women Run 50K program: https://mspfilm.org/show/fire-50-women-run-50k/Joe Hardin's "Standing Through Seasons" on Substack: https://sobrietysweatandsawdust.substack.com/p/standing-through-seasonsJoe Hardin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trail_tortoise_running/Joey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_RunRunning Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_podJoey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895Artwork by Ed Linder
- Feb 28, 20261h 39m
Tiffany Piotrowicz : Selling Shoes & Giving Hope
Season Two is here!! Yes, my loyal listeners, I am back, and so are my wonderful guests. My first guest is Tiffany Piotrowicz. At a fairly young age, she pivoted in her career and bought her own business. She has used her creative and marketing skills, and grown and guided that business into a great success, and now is using that as a tool and platform for bringing hope and help to her community. And stayed tuned after the conversation for a new segment I am deputing in season two called, "Running Out Loud", where I share works and words from talented folks that have been inspiring me lately. So let's get ready to meet Tiffany, and let's get ready for Season Two of the Running Behind pod.TerraLoco (Tiffany's store): https://runterraloco.com/TerraLoco on IG: https://www.instagram.com/terralocomn/Tiffany on IG: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.creative/TerraLoco on YouTube (the amazing "Hello, A Quarantine Parody" video): https://youtu.be/UsfIYXOS56Y?si=47f3YyFCEAj7ER7AJoe Hardin on IG: https://www.instagram.com/trail_tortoise_runningJoey's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Run_Joey_RunRunning Behind on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/running.behind_podJoey's Strava Profile: https://www.strava.com/athletes/111237895Artwork by Ed Linder
About Running Behind
Confession...I am a slow but persistent trail runner who likes to take on crazy trail running adventures. This is a podcast about the weird world of running, trail running and ultramarathons. Mostly from the perspective of the back of the pack...ordinary people trying to do extra-ordinary things. Topics will focus on gear, health, nutrition, training, trails and trail races around MN and the Midwest, and also taking a look all of this through the lens of older runners. Get ready for an ultra slow, but highly optimistic ride. We will get to that finish line, even if we are...running behind.
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