Rugby Rivals - Sir John Kirwan & Victor Matfield

Where Are The Crowds? Why so many empty seats?

August 17, 2026·32 min
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The All Blacks are three from three in South Africa. 142 points scored, 40 conceded - but what have we actually learned? With the first Test at Ellis Park just days away, Sir John Kirwan and Victor Matfield ask whether this tour has told us anything at all about where the All Blacks are at yet. Plus: the elephant in the half-empty stadium. 14,759 turned up in Durban. Cape Town fell short of a sellout. Loftus still had tickets on the morning of the game, with the good seats at R1,350. For a tour billed as Rugby's Greatest Rivalry - the first full All Blacks tour of South Africa in 30 years - where are the crowds? Thank you to Ram Hand-to-Hand Couriers and Klipdrift for supporting the show.

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