Sara Hirsh Bordo

This week Monica sits down with award-winning filmmaker, Women Rising founder, and author Sara Hirsh Bordo for a deeply personal conversation about chronic illness, self-silencing, and the hidden cost of being the “good girl.” Sara shares how her autoimmune diagnoses transformed her from documentarian into subject—and led her to write Autoimmunity and the Good Girls: How Permission to Put Ourselves First Has the Power to Keep Us Well. Drawing on her personal experience, original research conducted across 22 countries, and more than 50 hours of interviews, Sara explores how conditioning women to be agreeable, useful, and endlessly giving can shape their relationships with stress, identity, and their own bodies. Together, Monica and Sara unpack the difference between kindness and self-abandonment, why setting a boundary can feel like betrayal, and what it means to treat the body as a witness rather than an enemy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices