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JOHN BAER: THE EXTRAORDINARY ORDINARY / A MEMOIR IN PHOTOGRAPHS 1945–1954Andrew Baer and Megan Moynihan join Michael Chovan-Dalton to celebrate the release of John Baer: The Extraordinary Ordinary / A Memoir in Photographs 1945-1954, A Paper Cinema Edition, published by the John Baer Archive. This is, true to its title, an extraordinary collection of the never before published life work of John Baer, Andrew Baer's father. It's also a conversation about how wonderful a collaboration can be between family and professionals such as famed designer Yolanda Cuomo and her team, Alexa Dilworth and Jonno Rattman, Steve Smith at RISD, and Eric Luden at Digital Silver Imaging, who all believe in the work. https://www.johnbaerarchive.comhttps://www.instagram.com/johnbaerarchive/https://www.instagram.com/yolandacuomodesign/JOHN BAER (1920-1994) In 1945, while serving in the 644th Tank Destroyer Battalion, John Baer acquired a Leica camera from a captured German soldier. His first photographs were of his fellow soldiers, weary from war.Soon after the war John and his wife Louise moved to New York City, rented an apartment in the East Village, and connected with a community of artists and writers.In 1950 they journeyed to France and spent the next year living in Montpellier and traveling throughout Postwar Europe. John’s photographs capture a world struggling to understand itself following years of war and political realignment. In 1951 John and Louise returned to New York and their apartment in the East Village. John walked the streets, taking pictures that provide glimpses of ordinary people in the unguarded moments of their lives—at work, at rest, at play. He developed negatives and made prints in a make-shift darkroom in the bathroom of their fifth floor walk-up.Sometime in the mid-1950s, John stowed his photographic life away. After his death, in 1994, his son Andrew found boxes containing thousands of negatives and prints from between 1945 and 1954. For 27 years the boxes moved whenever Andrew did. Finally, in 2021, Andrew and his wife Megan Moynihan dove into the boxes to see what stories they held. Stories of Europe emerging from the darkness of war. Stories of New York City brimming with the optimism of the early 1950s. Stories of a generation and stories of John Baer, seen through the lens of his Leica.This podcast is sponsored by the Charcoal Book Club - Begin Building your dream photobook library today at:https://charcoalbookclub.com
2026 Chico Attendees SeriesPhotographer Katerina Kouzmitcheva joins Michael Chovan-Dalton from the 2026 Chico Review to talk about her work, Butter Melts at 36.6°C, which weaves together political, social, and psychological ideas that create a portrait of her life and the lives of the people she encounters.https://katerinakouzmitcheva.comhttps://www.instagram.com/katerina_kouzmitcheva/Katerina Kouzmitcheva is a Polish photographer of Belarusian origin based in Wrocław, Poland. Working at the intersection of documentary and art photography, she explores how visible and invisible boundaries—geographical, ideological, and psychological—shape individual lives and collective attitudes. Her work focuses on migration, systems of control, memory, gender, and identity, while also turning inward—to vulnerability, femininity, and the emotional experience of loss—moving between the personal and the political.She holds a Bachelor’s degree in Business Law, graduated from the Academy of Documentary and Art Photography “Fotografika” in St. Petersburg, and earned both her Master’s and PhD degrees in Fine Arts from the Academy of Art and Design in Wrocław. She is currently continuing her studies at the Institute of Creative Photography in Opava, Czech Republic.She is a winner of international photography competitions including TIFA, BIFA, and the Urbanautica Institute Awards, and a recipient of the Gaude Polonia scholarship from the Polish Ministry of Culture and National Heritage. Katerina is a member of the international photojournalist collective Women Photograph. Her work has been exhibited in Arles, as well as in Brazil, Japan, Estonia, Hungary, and Poland. Her photography has been featured in publications including British Journal of Photography, Bird in Flight, Monovisions, and Dodho, among others.This podcast is sponsored by the Charcoal Book ClubBegin Building your dream photobook library today athttps://charcoalbookclub.comThe Chico Review is the country’s premier Photobook Retreat. Organized by Charcoal Book Club, The Chico Review takes place over six nights at Chico Hot Springs Resort, near Livingston Montana. Applicants will spend the week with over twenty of the most influential and creative photographers, book makers, gallerists, museum curators, and photobook publishers in the industry.https://chicoreview.comhttps://www.charcoalworkshops.com
2026 Chico Attendees SeriesPhotographer, educator, and editor, Andrea Birnbaum joins Michael Chovan-Dalton from the 2026 Chico Review to talk about her work and limited edition book, Spilt Milk. "Spilt Milk is about family, memory, and what is handed down through generations. I am using family photographs and other items to construct images, exploring how certain behaviors have affected the family dynamic. Through this project, I am re-evaluating my personal history and altering my perspective with the newly acquired knowledge."https://www.andreabirnbaum.comhttps://www.andreabirnbaum.com/books/spilt-milk-limited-editionhttps://www.instagram.com/andreabirnbaumphotoAndrea Birnbaum is a social documentary photographer and educator. Her work as a freelance photographer spans many genres, including editorial, corporate, non-profit and portraiture for more than twenty years. She holds an MFA in Media Arts from Maine Media College in Rockport, Maine.Recent exhibitions include:2025 Family, Community and Belonging, Montclair Art Museum, Montclair, NJ2024 Re-examining the Family Tree, Photographic Nights of Selma, Selma, Alabama2021 Once Upon a Time, Griffin Museum of Photography, Boston, MA2021 Memory, juried by Fran Forman, SE Center for Photography, Greenville, SC2021 A Woman’s View, juried by Elinor Carucci, SE Center for Photography, Greenville, SC2021 Julia Margaret Cameron and Pollux Exhibitio, FotoNostrum, Barcelona, Spain2020 You Can Always See The Sun, Photographic Nights of Selma, Selma, AlabamaThis podcast is sponsored by the Charcoal Book ClubBegin Building your dream photobook library today athttps://charcoalbookclub.comThe Chico Review is the country’s premier Photobook Retreat. Organized by Charcoal Book Club, The Chico Review takes place over six nights at Chico Hot Springs Resort, near Livingston Montana. Applicants will spend the week with over twenty of the most influential and creative photographers, book makers, gallerists, museum curators, and photobook publishers in the industry.https://chicoreview.comhttps://www.charcoalworkshops.com
2026 Chico Attendees SeriesBook arts artist, teacher, and photographer, Alexander Mouton joins Michael Chovan-Dalton from the 2026 Chico Review to talk about his work from the former East Germany and his research in the German National Archives in Berlin. They will also discuss his imprint, Unseen Press.http://www.unseenproductions.nethttps://www.instagram.com/theunseenpress/Alexander Mouton has an MFA in photography from Indiana University, where he studied photography, film, literature, book arts, and digital media. For four years Alexander lived in Berlin directly following the fall of the Berlin Wall, during which time he was the recipient of a Fulbright Scholarship. In the early 2000's he developed his photographic processes to include net art, interactive video installations, and hypermedia performances. With a primary interest in sequencing images, Alexander's Unseen Press has been producing limited-edition photo books and zines since the nineties, many of which are in collections internationally including MoMA, NYC; the Getty Research Institute, LA; the Kunstbibliothek, Berlin; and most recently Latvijas Nacionālā bibliotēka, Riga, Latvia. Alexander's time-based media is included in Rhizome.org's ArtBase and has been exhibited at SFcamerawork, the Istanbul Contemporary Art Museum, the Walker Art Center and online at chico.art.net, Fylkingen Hz Journal #9, and SpringgunPress issue 5.As Associate Professor of Art at Seattle University, during the spring quarter of 2023, Alexander took a sabbatical to travel through the former East Germany with his camera conducting an ethnographic study of the GDR's 15 largest socialist housing settlements. Further research in the summer of 2024 included time in the German National Archives in Berlin, as well as at the Leibniz Institute for Research on Society and Space and the Hellersdorf District Museum Archives. Subsequent exhibition and publication is being pursued for 2025-26.This podcast is sponsored by the Charcoal Book ClubBegin Building your dream photobook library today athttps://charcoalbookclub.comThe Chico Review is the country’s premier Photobook Retreat. Organized by Charcoal Book Club, The Chico Review takes place over six nights at Chico Hot Springs Resort, near Livingston Montana. Applicants will spend the week with over twenty of the most influential and creative photographers, book makers, gallerists, museum curators, and photobook publishers in the industry.https://chicoreview.comhttps://www.charcoalworkshops.com
Visual storyteller and photojournalist, Ann Hermes, joins Michael Chovan-Dalton from the 2026 Chico Review to discuss her advocacy for visual storytelling and her photographic exploration of the loss of local newsrooms.https://www.annhermesphoto.comhttps://www.instagram.com/hermesphoto/I am a Brooklyn and Boston-based photojournalist and visual storyteller with a flair for the nostalgic. I create documentary tableaus that explore the roles that often overlooked, and sometimes outdated, institutions and people play in our history, culture and future. I’ve worked in a variety of logistically challenging situations on national and international assignments over my 15 years as a staff photographer for The Christian Science Monitor and other national and regional news outlets. This work ranged from breaking visual news coverage of the Arab Spring in Egypt to in-depth stories following Syrian refugees in Eastern Europe. My stories have also been featured in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Atlantic, The New Republic, and AARP.After years of experience in news photography, I am using my documentary expertise to create a visual exploration of the current critical era in journalism and explore the potential harm that the loss of local newsrooms would bring to our democracy. My Local Newsrooms project was recently exhibited at Photoville and profiled in Lenscratch. I hold an MA in Journalism from the University of Missouri. This podcast is sponsored by the Charcoal Book Club - Begin Building your dream photobook library today at:https://charcoalbookclub.com
Archipelago is a book about connection and isolation as described in the essays by Vicki Goldberg and Jean Dykstra. Chovan-Dalton and Del Amo discuss Del Amo's influence from the worlds of theater and dance, they also talk about teaching and the changes to their practices through the fall and rise of film photography.Photo of Yolanda del Amo credit: Ignacio Evangelista https://www.yolandadelamo.comhttps://www.instagram.com/yolanda.delamo/Yolanda del Amo is a Spanish-born, New York-based artist who works in photography. She questions how social constructs such as class, gender and family influence community, interpersonal psychology, and identity. Her work looks at individuals through a sociological and psychological lens, exploring how we live and connect with ourselves and others, and how we shape the world around us.Solo exhibitions have been held at the Centro Cultural de la Torriente Brau in Havana, Hudson Franklin Gallery in New York City, and Light Work in Syracuse, New York, among others. Her work has been included in group exhibitions at venues such as Julie Saul Gallery in New York City, the Addison Gallery of American Art in Andover and the National Portrait Gallery in London.She has been the recipient of multiple awards, such as a commendation at the Outwin Boochever Portrait Competition organized by the National Portrait Gallery in Washington DC and the second prize at the Salón Nacional de Artes Visuales in Buenos Aires. Institutions and Foundations that have supported her work through production grants include the Jerome Foundation, the John Anson Kittredge Fund and the Spanish Ministry of Culture.Del Amo has been a resident artist at the Terra Foundation for American Art in Giverny, France, the Spanish Academy in Rome, Light Work in Syracuse, New York, the Lower Manhattan Culture Council in New York City (LMCC) and the Cité Internationale des Arts in Paris.She is currently Professor of Photography and Digital Media at Ramapo College of New Jersey.This podcast is sponsored by the Charcoal Book Club - Begin Building your dream photobook library today at:https://charcoalbookclub.com
Filmmaker and photographer Ryan Hartley joins Michael Chovan-Dalton from the 2026 Chico Review to discuss project, Oaksplitter, a southern gothic exploration of the people and land from his upbringing.https://ryhart.comhttps://www.instagram.com/ry.hart/Crawling out of northwest Tennessee, Ryan Hartley is an award-winning filmmaker, writer, and photographer.In his youth, he roamed the outskirts of his small rural town, skateboarding, making home movies, and photographing both his friends and locals. He has traveled around the world, working in reality TV, photographing bands, and capturing the communities and unseen people who remind him of his childhood. Now based in Nashville, he works with artists, major record labels, and brands to help shape and capture their identity. His latest project, Oaksplitter, is a southern gothic exploration of the people and land from his upbringing, and the in-between spaces where those worlds collide.Publications: Rolling Ston, Oxford American, The Bitter Southerner Publishing, Garden & Guns, Paste Magazine, Sunnyside Projects, Black Flower Publishing , Flood Magazine, Uncut MagazineThis podcast is sponsored by the Charcoal Book Club - Begin Building your dream photobook library today at:https://charcoalbookclub.com
Photographer Yue Sun joins Michael Chovan-Dalton from the 2026 Chico Review to discuss His work from Inner Mongolia and the transition of his hometown from coal mining to tourism.https://www.yuesunphoto.comhttps://www.instagram.com/__4le_/b. 1998, Wuhai, Inner Mongolia, ChinaBased in Shanghai, ChinaYue Sun is a self-taught Chinese photographer, currently working as a freelance-architect in Shanghai.BA Architecture(ARB/RIBA Part I), Architecture Association School of ArchitectureGroup Exhibitions2026 - Gui Qu Lai Xi, FujiFilm X-Space, Hangzhou, China2025 - 6th Lanzhou International Image Biennale This podcast is sponsored by the Charcoal Book Club - Begin Building your dream photobook library today at:https://charcoalbookclub.com
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