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by Jay Whang
The podcast show where me, my co-host, or our possible guest talk about movies, and discuss how to adapt one live-action movie into an animation.If you have any question or interested in being on the show, please email: jay@box.jaywhangmakes.comYou can follow us here: https://bsky.app/profile/reanimatethispod.bsky.social
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Episode recorded: September 1st, 2026 (09/01/2026) 0:00:00 - Announcement from Dom 0:00:21 - Episode starts 0:01:44 - Introducing Patrick and Leslie of The Hunchcast of Notre-Dame (and how Jay discovered them) 0:06:40 - What is The Hunchback of Notre-Dame II about? 0:10:41 - Cons (and Pros) of The Hunchback of Notre-Dame II 0:33:20 - How to fix The Hunchback of Notre-Dame II 0:37:13 - Look into the different Boy-Meets-Girl romance movie set in Paris with a similar premise Les Amants du Pont-Neuf (and why Leslie and Patrick didn’t like it) 0:51:40 - Who is Leos Carax? 0:59:27 - The firework scene in Les Amants du Pont-Neuf (and why Denis Lavant is Jay’s choice for playing King Louis XI in his film adaptation of Notre-Dame de Paris). 1:07:03 - Troubled productions behind Les Amants du Pont-Neuf and whether doing it in animation could work 1:17:06 - Les Amants du Pont-Neuf but everyone is a Muppet except one character (and Jay’s surprising choice) 1:25:43 - Leos Carax got very meta in his later movies (Holy Motors and Annette) 1:31:00 - Inn, Dust, Throw, regarding The Hunchback of Notre-Dame II (Jay and Jessie’s choices only) and Les Amants du Pont-Neuf 1:41:07 - Conclusion (and elaboration on Jay’s film adaptation of Notre-Dame de Paris) This is the pilot episode for occasional Patreon-exclusive Bonus Episode. And because of that, it will be free for the public. We will make this an occasional, ad-less bonus episode for Patreon subscribers only. https://www.patreon.com/ReAnimateTHISPodcast It's September today, this means we just talked about one bad animated movie and discuss how to improve it. Jay and Jessie are here with Leslie and Patrick of The Hunchcast of Notre-Dame - a podcast dedicated to Victor Hugo's book Notre-Dame de Paris, its derivative works, and among tangentially related media. They organized the unofficial fans' 30th anniversary celebration of Disney's The Hunchback of Notre-Dame. For September Stinker, we are going to talk about The Hunchback of Notre-Dame II, the much-maligned direct-to-video sequel to the Disney's animated adaptation of Hugo's book. We will be discussing its redemptive aspects, problems with its premise alone, why Disney Home Entertainment made this movie to began with, how the magenta tint from the film degradation only unintentionally gave the movie a Valentine-like feel, and how to improve it better by brining in stuffs from the original book that the 1996 movie has left out. We are also going to talk about another misfit romance movie set around a different Parisian monument (and also faced release delays), but received much better reviews and now remembered fondly, titled The Lovers on the Bridge (Les Amants du Pont-Neuf), directed by Leos Carax. We will discuss its nihilistic tone (common during the 1990s), why Leslie and Patrick did not like the movie, its troubled production, and whether doing it in animation could save the movie. Media we have mostly discussed during the episode (spoilers ahead): The Hunchback of Notre-Dame II (2002), directed by Bradley Raymond Pocahontas II: Journey to a New World (1998), directed by Bradley Raymond The Lovers on the Bridge (Les Amants du Pont-Neuf) (1991), directed by Leos Carax Holy Motors (2012), directed by Leos Carax Annette (2021), directed by Leos Carax
Jay and Micah from The Emperor's New Podcast talk about the movie that Warner Brothers tried to put it as tax write off and managed to be rescued by Ketchup Entertainment. The Emperor's New Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@theemperorsnewpodcast
Episode recorded: August 8th, 2026 (08/08/2026) 00:00:35 - Episode starts. 00:00:55 - Introducing Adam Zanzie. 00:03:50 - What is Jonathan Livingston Seagull about? 00:11:18 - Some background behind Richard Bach’s book, its theme, its root in the self-esteem movement of that time, and the production of its film adaptation. 00:38:45 - A brief discussion on the documentary subgenre with a fictional narrative. 00:50:43 - Why Walt Disney has a fixation with anthropomorphizing animals in any medium, even long after his death. 00:59:59 - Ad break! 01:02:21 - Would live-action movies with CGI animals still be considered as animation? (Trigger warning: the 2019 remake of The Lion King). 01:05:29 - Jay’s own Jonathan Livingston Seagull moment. 01:15:36 - Why Hall Bartlett, of all people, wanted to turn Jonathan Livingston Seagull Into a live-action movie instead of animation? 01:31:06 - That time the production team housed many seagulls in the Holiday Inn hotel room. 01:33:37 - Why no animator during the 1970s tried to turn Jonathan Livingston Seagull into an animation as it seemed like a fitting medium? 01:36:31 - Would Jonathan Livingston Seagull (1973) be something that the 2019 remake of The Lion King tried to be? 01:38:59 - Jay’s question to Madzy: How should animators have responded to the 2019 remake of The Lion King? 01:40:56 - Jay’s pitch for his Brechtian CG animated movies involving photorealistic CGI animals. 01:56:34 - Final question for all of us: Why can’t you do it in animation when it’s a lot safer? This took a long while to get released because Jay is having a hectic month and got a new job. In this episode about a movie about a daredevil seagull rebelling against his flock, Jay and Madzy invited filmmaker and local Richard Bach expert Adam Zanzie. They talked about Bach’s self-help novel Jonathan Livingston Seagull and its film adaptation of the same name by Hall Bartlett, the historical context behind its rugged individualist message, Adam’s life-long research into the movie’s production, and the shaky relation between him and Richard Bach during his time making his video essay on the movie. And some details about how wealthy Hall Bartlett was and he used his money to make his most personal yet esoteric movie in his career. In the wake of movies made with photorealism CGIs and redoing animated movies with them (such as the 2019 remake of The Lion King), could Jonathan Livingston Seagull be made with that technology? Help the Prospect Heights Art Club to become a non-profit entity: https://www.gofundme.com/f/phac-year-five?attribution_id=sl:b6c96f14-9a4e-4066-b6f7-960c65670711&lang=en_US&ts=1786250862 Here is some info on the Prospect Heights Art Club’s exhibition at Studio Contro: https://partiful.com/e/p75Lk5DqoW6vV1qAhD2W Follow Adam Zanzie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adam_zanzie Watch Adam’s video essay on JLS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P817PgBqfmg Media we have mostly discussed during the episode (spoilers ahead): Jonathan Livingston Seagull (1973), directed by Hall Bartlett Jonathan Livingston Seagull (1970), written by Richard Bach Thus Spoke Zarathustra (1883 – 1892), written by Friedrich Nietzsche Encounters at the End of the World (2007), directed by Werner Herzog The Lion King (1995), directed by Roger Allers and Rob Minkoff The Lion King (2019), directed by Jon Favreau Mufasa: The Lion King (2014), directed by Barry Jenkins Watership Down (1978), directed by Martin Rosen Donnie Darko (2001), directed by Richard Kelly Bambi (1942), directed by David D. Hand, James Algar, Bill Roberts, Norman Wright, Sam Armstrong, Paul Satterfield, and Graham Heid Roar (1981), directed by Noel Marshall The Fox and the Hound (1981), directed by Art Stevens, Ted Berman, and Richard Rich The Adventures of Milo and Otis (子猫物語) (1986), directed by Masanori Hata
Jay briefly talks about Bouchra, an indie CG animated movie about an anthropomorphic queer Moroccan jackal.
Episode recorded: July 11th, 2026 (07/11/2026) 00:00:00 - Important message (why Jay won't be going to Pennsylvania this month). 00:00:28 - Episode starts. 00:05:16 - What is Santa Sangre about? 00:10:30 - Madzy’s interpretation of Santa Sangre as an allegory for trans experience. 00:30:30 - Who is Alejandro Jodorowsky? 00:38:18 - Jay loves The Holy Mountain. 00:45:14 - How this could also work in animation? 00:46:02 - Ad break! 01:23:08 - Jay recommends one of his favorite Mexican movies We Are the Flesh (Tenemos la carne). 01:25:27 - Some tangents on Mexico, its surrealist movies, and Mexican animation scenes. 01:39:44 - More about the topic for the next month’s episode Jay is laid off from Troma and his planned trip to Pennsylvania has been cancelled. Though at least he gave himself a chance to watch a Mexican horror movie that he hasn’t seen before, and it’s from his favorite film director Alejandro Jodorowsky. It was recommended by his co-host Madzy Williams herself and it’s one of her favorite movies for a personal reason. Please support Haneen and her students! https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-haneen-koraz-empower-voices-through-art?attribution_id=sl%3A7c48cd74-d034-4ab2-88e1-dcb39f3a0adc&utm_id=97760_v0_s00_e0_tv3 Intro music: WANDERLUST (Celest3 mix) by Celest3 - https://celest3.bandcamp.com/track/wanderlust-celest3-mix (CC BY-SA 4.0 - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/) Ad break music: Early Riser by Kevin MacLeod - https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Kevin_MacLeod/Best_of_2014_1461/Early_Riser (licensed under a Attribution 3.0 International License) Ending music: Arizona Green Tea by Stuffy Doll - https://stuffydollband.bandcamp.com/track/arizona-green-tea (used it with a permission) Movies, shorts, and tv shows we have mostly discussed during the episode (spoilers ahead): Santa Sangre (1989), directed by Alejandro Jodorowsky Fando y Lis (1968), directed by Alejandro Jodorowsky The Holy Mountain (La montaña sagrada) (1973), directed by Alejandro Jodorowsky The Skin I Live In (La piel que habito) (2011), directed by Pedro Almodóvar Amer (2009), directed by Hélène Cattet and Bruno Forzani The Strange Color of Your Body’s Tears (L'étrange couleur des larmes de ton corps) (2013), directed by Hélène Cattet and Bruno Forzani Suspiria (1977), directed by Dario Argento Punch & Judy (Rakvickarna) (1966), directed by Jan Švankmajer The works of Haneen Koraz and her students Dave Made a Maze (2017), directed by Bill Watterson The Devil’s Rejects (2005), directed by Rob Zombie Halloween 2 (2009), directed by Rob Zombie We Are the Flesh (Tenemos la carne) (2016), directed by Emiliano Rocha Minter The Mansion of Madness (La mansión de la locura) (1973), directed by Juan López Moctezuma El héroe (1994), directed by Carlos Carrera Ana y Bruno (2017), directed by Carlos Carrera
Episode Recorded: July 4th, 2026 (07/04/2026) 00:37 - About Ted Efremoff himself. 02:53 - Inspiration behind A Refugee’s Guide to Rome. 04:43 - How did Ted meet Joseph Peters? 06:06 - About Aeneas and Virgil’s Aeneid. 13:13 - What’s Ted’s favorite Greco-Roman mythology story? 14:16 - What made Ted become a multidisciplinary artist? 16:46 - Jay and Ted discuss The Five Obstructions. 24:48 - How Ted would reimagine his documentary into an animation. 30:39 - The power of oral storytelling. 35:42 - Who would be a good animation studio or animator for Ted’s documentary? 40:07 - Ted’s personal favorite of his works. 43:27 - Do Ted and Joseph still keep in touch? 46:23 - “Before we go…..” Multidisciplinary artist Ted Efremoff came onto the podcast to talk about his documentary A Refugee’s Guide to Rome. Ted Efremoff shared his Felliniesque past as a Russian immigrant who fell in love with Rome, how he met his documentary’s subject Joseph Peters, and how Joseph Peters himself relates his journey with the legendary Aeneas as a LGBTQ rights-supporting refugee fleeing from Sierra Leone, and the power of oral storytelling. Ted also shared how he started his artist career, his fascination with mythology, and his love for the documentary The Five Obstructions. And Jay got confused about archaeoacoustics. More on Ted Efremoff and his works: https://www.tedefremoff.com/ A trailer for A Refugee’s Guide to Rome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Ifbwyz0sU A Refugee’s Guide to Rome: https://www.amazon.com/Refugees-Guide-Rome-Ted-Efremoff/dp/B0FXJQY8Y2 https://tubitv.com/movies/100056923/a-refugee-s-guide-to-rome Ted’s instagram account: https://www.instagram.com/tedefremoff/ Intro music: WANDERLUST (Celest3 mix) by Celest3 - https://celest3.bandcamp.com/track/wanderlust-celest3-mix (CC BY-SA 4.0 - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/) Ending music: Arizona Green Tea by Stuffy Doll - https://stuffydollband.bandcamp.com/track/arizona-green-tea (used it with a permission) Audio Editor: Jay Whang
Episode recorded: June 13th, 2026 (06/13/2026) 00:00:00 - Important Message. 00:00:54 - Intro and icebreaker. 00:04:29 - Begin talking about We’re All Going to the World’s Fair, and its connection with the 2010s creepypasta subculture. 00:16:48 - The bridge between the 2010s internet and the 2020s filmmaking. 00:18:39 - The queer following of the analog horror subgenre and horror in general. 00:27:18 - Begin talking about I Saw the TV Glow. 00:37:11 - Jay initially viewed I Saw the TV Glow as a Classic Greek tragedy about a unique transgender experience. 00:41:50 - Discussing their childhood media made them realize their core identity or “crack the egg” 00:50:22 - Ad break! 00:59:02 - About Jane Schoenbrun. 01:08:37 - Shout outs to transgender and non-binary animators and puppeteers. 01:12:27 - Surrealism and its root in folklores and mythologies around the world. 01:29:22 - What would be the animation equivalent to the Jane Schoenbrun movie? 01:35:56 - Some discussions on Jane Schoenbrun’s latest movie Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Masima and their Black Hole streaming show. On this Pride Month, Jay and Madzy saw Jane Schoenbrun’s movies glow like that pink ghost tattoo on the back of Helena Howard and Lindsey Jordan’s necks. And things get very personal. Jay and Madzy will talk about Jane Schoenbrun, THE non-binary film director of the 2020s, and the first two films of their filmography - We’re All Going to the World’s Fair and I Saw the TV Glow. The hosts also discussed the 2010s creepypasta subculture, the relation between the LGBTQ+ community and the horror genre and surrealism, their own “Pink Opaque” - youth media that realized their core identity, why the world should fund trans and non-binary storytellers to avoid another Emilia Perez situation, Schoenbrun’s upcoming movie Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Masima, and their planned streaming adaptation of Charles Burns’s coming-of-age body-horror graphic novel Black Hole. Jay also made a case for “nostalgia-pessimist” or “nostalgia-cynic” media, using Schoenbrun's filmography and Black Hole as examples, as a counter-response to the current nostalgia-baits. For inquiries: jay@box.jaywhangmakes.com Some shout out to transgender and non-binary animators and puppeteers that we follow! Please support their work! https://linktr.ee/Beeragon https://www.instagram.com/tucker13x/ https://www.youtube.com/@angelafellowsfilms https://www.instagram.com/mu_cube/ Intro music: WANDERLUST (Celest3 mix) by Celest3 - https://celest3.bandcamp.com/track/wanderlust-celest3-mix (CC BY-SA 4.0 - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/) Ad break music: Early Riser by Kevin MacLeod - https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Kevin_MacLeod/Best_of_2014_1461/Early_Riser (licensed under a Attribution 3.0 International License) Ending music: Arizona Green Tea by Stuffy Doll - https://stuffydollband.bandcamp.com/track/arizona-green-tea (used it with a permission) Movies, shorts, and tv shows we have mostly discussed during the episode (spoilers ahead): We’re All Going to the World’s Fair (2021), directed by Jane Schoenbrun I Saw the TV Glow (2024), directed by Jane Schoenbrun Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Masima (2026), directed by Jane Schoenbrun The Matrix (1999), directed by Lana and Lilly Wachowski Speed Buggy (1973), created by Hanna-Barbera Greek and Roman Mythology (만화로 보는 그리스 로마 신화) (2000 – 2006), created by Hong Eun-young Hedwig and the Angry Inch (2001), directed by John Cameron Mitchell Tux and Fanny (2019), directed by Albert Birney The Boy and the Heron (君たちはどう生きるか) (2023), directed by Hayao Miyazaki Mulholland Drive (2001), directed by David Lynch Angel Hare (2022 – 2025), created by The Mangan Sisters Black Hole (1995 – 2005), created by Charles Burns
Correction - Around 38:40, Jay has said "disruptive thoughts,” when he meant “intrusive thoughts.” Episode recorded: June 3rd, 2026 (06/03/2026) 01:00 - Podcast starts. 02:30 - About Joseph Mbah himself. 03:20 - How Joseph’s filmmaking journey started. 10:28 - How Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight made Joseph become a film director. 15:40 - Joseph Mbah’s views on recent animation (including Sony Pictures Animation’s Goat). 25:24 - About Whispers Bind, its behind-the-scenes, and how Joseph ended up becoming the movie’s lead actor. 33:48 - Joseph’s favorite behind-the-scenes story. 35:40 - Joseph’s personal favorite of his filmography. 36:50 - What if someone or some studio from any part of the world made the animated adaptation of Whispers Bind? 39:00 - What’s Joseph Mbah currently working on? Film director Joseph Mbah has reached out to Jay on Podmatch and he wants to talk about his latest movie Whispers Bind, which will be available on Roku and Fawesome. Because of that, this will be the podcast’s first Special Interview episode where filmmakers, film scholars, or animators share their creative journey, their works, their knowledge in movies, and thoughts on the world of animation. For more information on Joseph Mbah’s movie Whispers Bind: https://www.paradoxuniverse.net/ Trailer for Whispers Bind: https://vimeo.com/1102698686/a0824bb9bc?fl=pl&fe=sh Joseph Mbah’s instagram page: https://www.instagram.com/joseph_mbah Intro music: WANDERLUST (Celest3 mix) by Celest3 - https://celest3.bandcamp.com/track/wanderlust-celest3-mix (CC BY-SA 4.0 - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/) Ending music: Arizona Green Tea by Stuffy Doll - https://stuffydollband.bandcamp.com/track/arizona-green-tea (used it with a permission) Audio Editor: Jay Whang
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