Product and Cake

AI as a Teammate and the Future of the 'Why'

May 11, 2026·35 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

In this special live recording from the Vention Unplugged event in Berlin, Paul Lunow takes the stage to tackle one of the most polarizing questions in tech today: Is AI just a tool we trigger, or is it a teammate that can actually surprise us?. To get past the standard "it depends" industry fluff, we forced our panel of experts into a high-stakes game. Armed with green microphones for "pro" arguments and red microphones for "contra", our guests had to switch sides mid-debate to argue the real tensions of building with AI. Our Unplugged Panel Includes: Catalina Turlea: Founder & CTO at LoveLays (formerly CTO of Nilo.health). Dirk Woywod: CPTO at RuleMapping Group, building AI on legal logic. Florian Thiel: Director of Engineering at Upvest, Europe's leading API-first investment infrastructure. Promit Ray, Chief AI Officer & Co-Founder @ Rayol AI Solutions; CTO @ Scivalon. Follow Product and Cake on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/product-and-cake-podcast and checkout our new website: https://product-and-cake.lun.io

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