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by Matthew, Anrui, Yiwen
一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织
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- May 15, 20261h 2m
EP20 重生之我在硅谷做CEO！聊聊Cluely和Roy Lee的病毒式营销 What Is Cluely?
【聊了什么 The What】 Cluely是一家靠帮人面试作弊起家的AI公司，创始人Roy Lee从哥大退学，拿到a16z领投的千万美元融资，但它在各大平台发布的搞笑短视频系列，比产品本身更出名。这期节目，我们请来传播从业者Ivy，聊聊Cluely这家公司和不走寻常路的创始人Roy Lee。 病毒式营销能否真正转化为商业价值？通过模仿中国国际学生出圈的网红Remy Zee加入Cluely，这为什么是Roy Lee做过最正确的商业决策？Lookmaxxing、蛋白质崇拜、公款报销约会费用背后，这家公司的兄弟会文化折射出什么？短剧里女性角色的凝视位置，以及ABG CMO作为硅谷新趋势，又意味着什么？ Roy Lee的走红，是个人天才，还是时代给亚裔男性打开了一扇从未有过的门？在AI重塑硅谷生态的当下，那些曾经循规蹈矩的亚裔男性，正在用一种全新的方式争夺话语权、资本与关注。这场逆袭的代价与边界，值得认真审视。 Cluely is an AI company that got its start helping people cheat in job interviews. Its founder Roy Lee dropped out of Columbia, raised millions in funding led by a16z — yet the company's viral comedy video series is far more famous than the product itself. This episode, we sit down with communications professional Ivy to unpack Cluely, and the unconventional founder behind it. Can viral marketing actually convert into business value? Why was hiring Remy Zee — the creator who blew up impersonating Chinese international students — arguably the best business decision Roy Lee ever made? What does Cluely's frat-house culture of lookmaxxing, protein obsession, and expensing employee dates really say about the company? And what does the male gaze baked into their short-form dramas, and the rise of the "ABG CMO" as a Silicon Valley trend, actually mean? Is Roy Lee's rise a story of individual genius — or has the AI era simply opened a door for Asian men that was never there before? As AI reshapes the Silicon Valley ecosystem, Asian men who once played by every rule are now competing for influence, capital, and attention in entirely new ways. The cost of that reinvention, and its limits, are worth examining carefully. 【时间轴 The When】 00:01:58 哥大退学、面试作弊，融到2000万？ 00:05:53 Cluely到底是什么？从作弊软件转型会议纪要与新产品Bounty 00:08:29 病毒式营销，网红Remy Zee和Ling Long 00:17:46 公司文化如同兄弟会，Looksmaxxing和表演式男性文化 00:24:26 性别凝视：短剧里的女性角色与ABG CMO 00:36:44 亚裔男性的拧巴处境，摇身一变，AI时代亚裔站上聚光灯 00:41:15 Roy Lee，是TikTok时代的成功学大师吗？ 00:48:11 在厕所和VC打电话的Gen Z创始人 00:47:17 重新定义Agency，社媒影响力并不是全部 00:59:03 Founder-Led传播途径：数字造假风波的反转操作，反映了2026年的媒体玩法 00:01:58 Dropped out of Columbia, cheated in interviews, raised $20M? 00:05:53 What even is Cluely? From cheating tool to meeting notes app and new product Bounty 00:08:29 Viral marketing, influencers Remy Zee and Ling Long 00:17:46 Company culture as a frat house: lookmaxxing and performative masculinity 00:24:26 The male gaze: female characters in their short-form dramas, and the rise of the ABG CMO 00:36:44 The Asian male identity crisis and the AI era glow-up 00:41:15 Is Roy Lee the self-help guru of the TikTok generation? 00:48:11 The Gen Z founder taking VC calls from a bathroom stall 00:47:17 Redefining agency: social media clout isn't the whole story 00:59:03 Founder-led comms: how Roy Lee spun a fake numbers scandal into a viral moment and what it says about media in 2026 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 嘉宾： Ivy：PR Agency创始人、运营英文订阅信Calling the Shots，并在FT中文网开设专栏《话语圈时代》。在洛杉矶长大的ABC和两个男孩的母亲。 【拓展链接 The Links】 Child’s Play, by Sam Kriss 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com
- Apr 27, 202658 min
EP19 当一家AI公司被封杀：技术从不中立 Technology Was Never Neutral
【聊了什么 The What】 当AI从工具变成武器，人类该如何自处？ 2026年初，Claude被白宫封杀。这成了AI的公共形象的转折点。这件事让我们意识到，AI可能已经悄悄完成了它的成年礼：它不再只是一个技术话题，而是变成了一个政治问题、一个选边站的时刻。 在这期串台节目里，主播一闻和《美轮美换》的主播小华、硅谷投资人磊一起聊了：AI是如何从一个技术问题，变成最烫手的政治问题的。红线到底该由谁来画？当 Super PAC 开始用 AI 的钱打中期选举、当数据中心让红州蓝州的电价一起上涨、当美国公众对 AI 的反感度已经跌穿地板——AI 的“核弹时刻“到底是技术奇点，还是政治奇点？我们也顺便聊了聊中美在这件事上正在经历的两种截然不同的现实。 本期播客录制于4月初。 When AI Goes from Tool to Weapon, how do we find our footing? In early 2026, Claude was blacklisted by the White House. It became a turning point for AI's public image — and a moment that made us realize AI may have quietly come of age. It's no longer just a tech topic; it's a political issue, a moment that demands you pick a side. In this crossover episode, host Yiwen sits down with Xiaohua, host of The American Roulette, and Lei, a Silicon Valley investor, to unpack how AI went from a technical question to the most politically charged issue of the moment. Who gets to draw the red lines? When Super PACs start spending AI money to swing the midterms, when data centers push up electricity bills across red and blue states alike, when American public sentiment toward AI has fallen through the floor — is AI's "nuclear moment" a technological singularity, or a political one? We also get into the two starkly different realities the U.S. and China are living through on this front. Recorded in early April. 【时间轴 The When】 03:06 Anthropic与五角大楼撕破脸：AI政治化的转折点 04:48 两条红线：大规模监控与全自主武器 07:41 立法真空下，商业公司被迫当仲裁者 10:33 硅谷政治转向与员工抗议的复活 14:33 Anthropic的商业账本：合同不如公众形象值钱 17:08 Dario vs Sam Altman：同一天两种结局 24:05 Super PAC对AI监管的冲突 30:30 AI好感度比ICE还低 32:35 中美两种现实：小龙虾与"温水煮青蛙" 38:19 数据中心、电价与NIMBY：AI恐惧的具象化 43:21 如果AI创造所有GDP，普通人还有筹码吗？ 50:30 Bernie Sanders的Claude视频与左派的AI叙事 53:43 Token出海：中美AI的两种工业体系 03:06 Anthropic vs. the Pentagon: The Turning Point of AI's Politicization 04:48 Two Red Lines: Mass Surveillance and Fully Autonomous Weapons 07:41 In a Legislative Vacuum, Companies Are Forced to Arbitrate 10:33 Silicon Valley's Political Shift and the Return of Employee Protest 14:33 Anthropic's Business Math: Public Image Beats Government Contracts 17:08 Dario vs. Sam Altman: Two Outcomes on the Same Day 24:05 Super PACs Go to War Over AI Regulation 30:30 AI Polls Worse Than ICE 32:35 Two Realities: OpenClaw and the Slow-Boiling Frog 38:19 Data Centers, Electric Bills, and NIMBY: Where AI Fear Gets Real 43:21 If AI Creates All the GDP, What Leverage Do Ordinary People Have? 50:30 Bernie Sanders' Claude Video and the Left's AI Narrative 53:43 Tokens Go Global: Two Industrial Systems for AI 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 小华：媒体人 Lei：风险投资人 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com
- Mar 12, 202656 min
EP18 对话《纽约客》作者刘亦灵：在算法和审查中寻找灵魂自由的舞动 A conversation with Yi-Ling Liu on 'Wall Dancers'
【聊了什么 The What】 在这期节目中，我们邀请到了新生代作家 Yi-Ling Liu（刘亦灵），深入聊聊她刚刚出版的英文新书 The Wall Dancers: Searching for Freedom and Connection on the Chinese Internet。 亦灵是我们的老朋友，也是一位长期关注中国网络、文化及科技领域的自由撰稿人，曾为《纽约客》等媒体撰写相关文章。这本书对我们来说尤为特别——它是近年来为数不多以“人”为核心，而非聚焦于商业或地缘政治的、关于中国的英文非虚构作品。 书名中的核心隐喻是“戴着镣铐跳舞“，这是一个任何在中国互联网上有过亲身体验的人都不陌生的意象。西方媒体对中国互联网的叙事，往往侧重于其封闭性与禁锢感，而刘亦灵则选择透过个体的选择，去呈现中国光怪陆离互联网社群独特的韧性，戏剧张力，和无处不在的隐秘抵抗。 在中国特有的网络与科技环境中，她的观察跟随着几位极具代表性的角色：从曾经的微博审查员刘力朋、女权活动家吕频，到成都的说唱歌手Kafe.Hu、科幻作家陈楸帆，以及从警察转型为同志社交软件 CEO 的马保力。通过这些人的故事，串联起过去三十年中国互联网的激荡与变迁。 在香港出生长大，美国接受教育的亦灵在观察中国时有一种疏离而又颗粒度极高的写作风格。她到底怎么选中了这些主人公，又怎样完成了这部历时数年的大部头？在这本独特的大部头发布之际，中外互联网的变迁又让她有了哪些最新的反思？本期节目因为种种原因我们将只在墙外发布。这也是亦灵首次用中文接受采访——主播安蕤和马修将作为读者，同行和朋友进行发问。 In this episode, we are joined writer Yi-Ling Liu to talk in depth about her newly published English-language book, The Wall Dancers: Searching for Freedom and Connection on the Chinese Internet. Yi-Ling is an old friend of the show and a longtime freelance writer focused on China’s internet, culture, and technology, with work published in outlets including The New Yorker. This book feels especially important to us because it is one of the few recent English-language nonfiction books about China that places people, rather than business or geopolitics, at its center. The book’s central metaphor is “dancing in shackles,” an image that is immediately familiar to anyone with lived experience of the Chinese internet. Western media narratives about China’s online world often emphasize its closedness and sense of constraint. Yi-Ling, by contrast, chooses to focus on individual choices, revealing the resilience, dramatic tension, and ever-present undercurrents of quiet resistance within China’s strange and dazzling online communities. Within China’s highly specific internet and technological environment, her reporting follows several deeply representative figures: former Weibo censor Liu Lipeng, feminist activist Lü Pin, Chengdu rapper Kafe.Hu, science fiction writer Chen Qiufan, and Ma Baoli, a former police officer who later became the CEO of a gay social networking app. Through their stories, she traces the turbulence and transformation of China’s internet over the past three decades. Born and raised in Hong Kong and educated in the United States, Yi-Ling brings to her observations on China a writing style that is both detached and richly textured. How did she choose these protagonists, and how did she complete this sweeping work over the course of several years? Now that this distinctive book has been published, how have recent changes in both Chinese and global internet culture shaped her latest reflections? For various reasons, this episode will only be released outside the Great Firewall. It is also Yi-Ling’s first time being interviewed in Chinese. Hosts Anrui and Matthew join the conversation as readers, peers, and friends. 【时间轴 The When】 00:43 - Yi-Ling和《墙之舞者》——“在互联网上寻找自由与连接” 14:43 - 写作视角“以人为中心”的深度报道过程 20:19 - 避开空投记者陷阱，深入社群深度访谈 28:26 - 拾荒式写作：将破碎的社交媒体信息拼凑成口述历史 44:37 - 意外的反响：西方读者也要开始共舞了吗？ 53:11 - AI陪伴是否会加剧社会的脱节与孤独 56:09 - 结语及新书购买信息 00:43 – Yi-Ling and The Wall Dancers: “Searching for freedom and connection on the internet” 14:43 – A human-centered approach to deeply reported writing 20:19 – Avoiding the parachute-journalist trap through deep community reporting 28:26 – Ragpicker-style writing: piecing together fragmented social media traces into oral history 44:37 – An unexpected response: are Western readers beginning to dance too? 53:11 – Could AI companionship deepen social disconnection and loneliness? 56:09 – Closing remarks and information on how to purchase the book 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com
- Feb 21, 202653 min
EP017 Chinamaxxing：美国年轻人为什么想变成中国人？It is a very Chinese time to be alive
【聊了什么 The What】 洋抖难民入住小红书一年之后，美国年轻人又整上新活，想直接变成中国人了？从喝热水、学中文，到穿唐装、追中国短剧，越来越多美国年轻人开始说自己正处在 “a very Chinese time of my life”。这个被称作Chinamaxxing的网络趋势，是文化认同的转变，还是一场抽象时代的玩梗狂欢？在这期播客里，我们拆解了这个趋势的来源和传播，以及它背后的反叛情绪。 当中国从被高度符号化的他者，变成好玩、无厘头、被重新想象的文化标签，这种变化意味着什么？作为中国人，看着大家突然想成为我们，又是一种怎样复杂的感受？和我们一起，聊聊互联网时代的中国高光时刻。 A year after the so-called “TikTok refugees” moved into Xiaohongshu, American internet culture has found a new twist — this time, young Americans want to “become Chinese.” From drinking hot water and learning Mandarin on Duolingo to wearing the Adidas Tang jackets and binge-watching Chinese dramas, more and more are saying they are living through “a very Chinese time of my life.” This online trend, known as Chinamaxxing, raises a question: is this a genuine shift in cultural identity, or just another wave of absurdist internet play? In this episode, we unpack where the trend came from, how it spread, and the rebellious energy behind it. As China shifts from a highly politicized “other” to something playful, ironic, and newly reimagined online, what does that change really mean? And as Chinese people, how do we feel watching others suddenly want to “become us”? Proud, annoyed, amused — or something more complicated? Join us as we explore this internet-age Chinese high-glow moment. 【时间轴 The When】 03:18 什么是China Maxxing？ 06:47 喝热水、穿阿迪达斯“Tang”，就是中国人吗？ 10:22 ABC vs白人网友玩梗，两种变中国逻辑 18:31 从雪花飘飘到Tina，误解与再创作中出圈的中国meme 23:12 反叛父辈叙事，美国年轻人的公开声明 27:48 线上文化与现实认知的分野 36:44 奶茶、Temu、DeepSeek：中国元素已经渗透日常生活 41:03 文化输出还是文化扁平化？ 45:27 作为中国人，我们的感受是骄傲、不爽还是荒谬？ 49:58 当梗进入主流语境之后会发生什么？、 03:18 What’s Chinamaxxing? 06:47 Does Drinking Hot Water and Wearing Adidas Jackets Make You Chinese? 10:22 ABCs vs. Young Americans: Two Different Logics of “Becoming Chinese” 18:31 From Xue Hua Piao Piao to Tina: How Chinese Memes Go Viral Through Misinterpretation and Remix 23:12 Rebellion Against the Parent Generation by Young Americans 27:48 The Divide Between Internet Culture and Real-World Perception 36:44 Boba, Temu, DeepSeek: Chinese Elements in Everyday American Life 41:03 Cultural Influence or Cultural Flattening? 45:27 As Chinese, Do We Feel Proud, Annoyed, or Amused? 49:58 What Happens When the Meme Enters the Mainstream? 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【拓展链接 The Links】 WIRED: Why Everyone Is Suddenly in a ‘Very Chinese Time’ in Their Lives 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com
- Feb 5, 202658 min
EP016 AI视频技术成熟了，我们离吃上AI细糠还远吗 AI video is getting good but why are we still eating slop
【重要的事放在前面说】 2026 年，「新新人类」希望能和大家展开更多深度交流。除了播客，我们也在筹备一些线上或者线下的活动。 如果你感兴趣参与我们的活动，请填写这份问卷留下您的邮箱，方便我们活动组织起来之后联系到您！ 【聊了什么 The What】 下滑，下滑，咦，这个视频有点意思，但好像又有点不对头，难道是AI？？ 随着人工智能生成视频技术的日新月异，新新人类的主播们每天都浪费了大量刷手机的时间用于分辨某个视频是不是AI生成的。不得不承认，从几年前生成的六根指头的手和鬼画符一般的文字，到现在以假乱真的后院蹦床兔兔和偷快递监控，AI视频的质量在不断提升，我们对它的认识也不得不更新换代。 这一期节目我们请来了Coco来做嘉宾，曾经在谷歌工作的她现在是AI视频生成平台和社区OpenArt的CEO。我们既聊了AI技术本身的飞速发展，也聊了作为社交媒体用户的我们如何看待当下遍布全网的AI视频。Coco说，她觉得AI视频生成的技术会成为让任何人都可以当网红的平权工具，那如果拍视频和剪视频的技术不再是刚需，什么才会是下一代的头部网红的核心竞争力？ Scroll, scroll…huh, this video is kind of interesting, but something feels off…Is it AI?? As AI-generated video technology advances, the hosts of Pixel Perfect also have wasted huge amounts of time every day just trying to figure out whether a video we saw on social media was made by AI. Like it or not, we have to admit: from the six-fingered hands and illegible text of a few years ago to today’s deceptively realistic videos of backyard trampoline bunnies and package-thief security-cam clips, AI video quality keeps improving, and our opinion on it has to keep updating too. In this episode, we invited Coco to join us as a guest. After working at Google, she’s now the CEO of OpenArt, an AI video-generation platform and community. We talked about the rapid evolution of the tech itself, and also about how we—as social media users—make sense of AI videos that are now ubiquitous. Coco said she believes AI video generation will become an empowering tool that lets anyone become an internet celebrity. So if filming and editing are no longer necessary skills, what will be the core competitive edge of the next generation of top-tier creators? 【时间轴 The When】 01:30 - OpenArt CEO Coco介绍过去三年图片和视频AI的技术迭代 03:49 - 从生成六根手指的DALL-E到百花齐放的中美AI工具 15:03 - 创作平权：AI如何赋予普通人讲故事的能力 24:08 - 为什么模糊的监控视角更容易让AI视频以假乱真 31:12 - OpenArt工作流：故事板、Agent与长叙事生成 34:47 - 视频生成的下一个里程碑是世界模型（World Model）吗？ 42:01 - 未来创作者的核心竞争力是网感还是审美？ 51:09 - 外国山海经：一个AI原生的网络热梗 58:41 - 版权保护、AI标签标注与未来的内容生态 01:30 - Coco, OpenArt’s CEO, introduces the tech evolution of AI videos 03:49 - From DALL-E to a thousand American and Chinese AI video tools 15:03 - Empowering everyone to become video creators 24:08 - Why it’s so damn hard to tell a security camera video is AI-generated 31:12 - How OpenArt works: storyboards, AI agents, and long narratives 34:47 - World Model is the next milestone of video generation 42:01 - How to excel as a content creator in the future 51:09 - Italian Brainrot: an AI-native meme 58:41 - Copyrights, AI content labeling, and the future of content creation 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【拓展链接 The Links】 OpenArt的官网 How I learned to stop worrying and love AI slop OpenAI’s new social app is filled with terrifying Sam Altman deepfakes 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com
- Dec 18, 202549 min
EP015 少小当秀粉，长大看团播 We Fell Into the Group Livestream Rabbit Hole
【聊了什么 The What】 从扫腿舞到“宝宝上车啦”，从《万物生》到《溯》，最近只要刷过短视频，基本都被这几首团播神曲洗脑过。和传统的单人直播不一样，团播把帅哥美女放在同一个画面里，一起跳舞、互动、PK，更像一档随时在直播的偶像综艺。 从这期节目开始，我们想要和大家多聊聊我们三个共同关注到的互联网现象。第一次尝试，就从团播为什么这么火聊起。主播怎么被训练和安排，观众为什么愿意持续打赏，平台规则又在其中起到了什么作用？我们也会聊到团播和日韩偶像选秀之间的相似之处，以及“养成系”粉丝关系在直播间里是怎么被放大的。通过团播，或许我们能看到的是，在经济下行、注意力经济当道的大背景下，亲密感和陪伴感是否被赋予了新的意义。 From leg-sweep dances to catchphrases like “Baby, hop on,” and from All Things Grow to Backflow (N.B. all of these are too Chinese to translate), anyone who’s scrolled through short-video apps lately has likely had these group-streaming hits stuck in their head. Unlike traditional solo livestreams, group streaming features multiple attractive hosts in the same frame—dancing together, interacting, and competing in real-time—feeling more like an idol variety show that never goes off air. With this episode, we’re starting a new series where the three of us talk through internet phenomena we’ve all been noticing. For our first try, we’re diving into why group streaming has taken off so quickly. We look at how hosts are trained and managed, why viewers keep tipping and voting, and how platform rules shape these behaviors. We also unpack the similarities between group streaming and Japanese and Korean idol survival shows, and how “idol-training” style fan relationships are amplified inside livestreams. Through the lens of group streaming, we explore how intimacy and companionship are being redefined in an era of economic pressure and attention-driven platforms. 【时间轴 The When】 00:02:31 团播初体验？从奇观化视角看待新兴网络文化 00:07:53 团播的吸引力源泉：表演美学与竞争关系 00:13:22 从元气萌妹到性感欲姐，满足受众投射需求 00:16:47 看不见的场控：制作人角色与权力分配的奇妙结构 00:19:00 从选秀到团播：审美降级还是交互升级？ 00:26:30 团播与偶像产业的连接：日韩偶像大不同 00:31:57 团播如何撕去偶像养成的最后一层遮羞布 00:39:04 团播的软色情属性与“救风尘” 00:45:32 从亚文化到主流，团播如何融入主流娱乐产业？ 00:02:31 First time with Group Streaming: Viewing an Emerging Online Culture as Spectacle 00:07:53 What Makes Group Streaming So Addictive: Performance Aesthetics and Built-In Competition 00:13:22 From Cute and Bubbly to Bold and Sexy: Fulfilling Audience Fantasies and Projections 00:16:47 The Invisible Hands Behind the Scenes: Producers, Control, and Power Dynamics 00:19:00 From Idol Survival Shows to Group Streaming: A Step Down in Taste or an Upgrade in Interaction 00:26:30 Group Streaming and the Idol Industry: How It Differs from K-Pop and J-Pop 00:31:57 How Group Streaming Strips Away the Last Layer of Idol-Making Illusions 00:39:04 The Soft-Porn Undertones of Group Streaming and the “Savior” Narrative 00:45:32 From Subculture to the Mainstream: How Group Streaming Is Becoming Part of the Entertainment Industry 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【拓展链接 The Links】 澎湃新闻：有人看团播花120万元，阿姨团爷爷团都来了，团播进入“群魔乱舞”时代 36氪：从「扫腿」到「上车」，团播火了几支舞 欠薪、擦边、违约金，困在“团播”里的年轻人 我在卡卡团播间嗑CP：3000万打赏一个月BE 多个头部团解散，团播进入调整期？ 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com
- Oct 1, 20251h 4m
EP014 去火人节做梦，在旧金山醒来 Dreamed at Burning Man only to wake up in SF
【聊了什么 The What】 大家好，我是从火人节回来的一闻，我已经蜕变了（不是。 从黑石城回来的那一天，我在新新人类群聊里说：“朋友们，不幸的消息：这大概是我这辈子过的最棒的一周。” 在诸多主流叙事中，每年八月底在美国内华达州举办的火人节（Burning Man），就是一场放任自由主义（Libertarianism）的精英狂欢。我过去也因为它和硅谷之间的精神与文化纽带，对它有过先入为主的成见。而如果你告诉去年的我，我会在沙漠里坚持八天不洗澡，我一定不会相信。但事实上，在这一周里，我放声痛哭过，也开怀大笑过。我在燃烧的熊熊烈火中，看到了让灵魂为之颤栗的景象。在狂风暴雨之间，我也感受到了人与人之间最简单、真诚和美好的联系。这一切，都彻底改变了我对火人节的印象。 但在我们聊黑石城的魔幻与灵性的同时，我们也不可避免的要提到这场起源于嬉皮士精神的活动在逐渐主流化、现代化的过程中所经历的变化。在这期播客中，我们探讨了资本主义逻辑之下“假期”的概念，与建立乌托邦所需要的经济成本。安蕤也分享了她所经历的一次位于黑山的生活实验，引发了我们对于社群建构的探讨。为什么这些精神实验总有一个截止日期？在控制变量环境下，人与人之间的善意，又是否能被带回现实世界？ Hi everyone, this is Yiwen reporting back from Burning Man. The day I returned from Black Rock City, I wrote in our Pixel Perfect group chat: “Friends, I regret to report that this may actually be the best week of my life.” In mainstream narratives, Burning Man — held every late August in Nevada’s desert — is often seen as an elitist playground for libertarianists. I used to think the same, especially because of its deep cultural and spiritual ties with Silicon Valley. And if you had told me last year that I’d spend eight days in the desert without showering, I would never have believed you. Yet over that week, I cried my eyes out, laughed until my stomach hurt, and stood before burning flames that made my soul tremble. In the middle of storms and rain, I also felt the most simple, genuine, and beautiful forms of human connection. All of this completely changed my view of Burning Man. But alongside the magic and spirituality of Black Rock City, we can’t avoid talking about how this countercultural gathering — rooted in hippie ideals — has evolved as it’s become more mainstream and modernized. In this episode, we explore the idea of “vacation” under capitalism and the economic cost of creating utopias. Anrui also shares her experience living in a temporary community during Zuzalu, which sparked our discussion on intentional community building. Why do these social experiments always have an expiration date? And in a controlled environment, can the kindness people show each other actually be carried back into the real world? 【时间轴 The When】 00:01:37: 来到黑石城：火人节到底是什么样的体验？ 00:08:43: 从沙漠下暴雨到灵魂共鸣 00:11:36: 火人节的精神核心：十项原则 00:26:11: 在沙漠，消融的身份标识 00:33:46: 乌托邦的成本：创造纯粹社会体验所需的经济现实 00:36:21: 黑山、Zuzalu和临时城市 00:39:42: 硅谷精英如何火人节形成了特殊的连结 00:56:31: 为什么我们能在控制环境中体验善意，却难以带回现实生活？ 00:01:37 — What is the Burning Man experience really like? 00:08:43 — From desert rainstorms to spiritual resonance 00:11:36 — The spiritual core of Burning Man: The Ten Principles 00:26:11 — In the desert, dissolving identity markers 00:33:46 — The cost of utopia: The economic reality behind creating a “pure” social experience 00:36:21 — Montenegro, Zuzalu, and the rise of temporary cities 00:39:42 — How Silicon Valley elites form unique connections at Burning Man 00:56:31 — Why can we experience kindness in controlled environments, yet struggle to carry it back into real life? 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com
- Aug 21, 20251h 8m
EP013 下一个Sam Altman？硅谷最具争议的年轻人Alexandr Wang Is Alexandr Wang the Next Sam Altman
【聊了什么 The What】 他是 1997 年出生的硅谷新贵，28 岁就坐上了 Meta 首席 AI 官的位置。Alexandr Wang 从 MIT 辍学创业，到打造独角兽 Scale AI，一路高歌猛进。但相比履历，他的性格更耐人寻味：既是奥赛极客，又是派对常客；他不仅在硅谷的人脉网络中游刃有余，还在更为传统、精英的华盛顿为公司争取来了国防合同。同时，他也提出了争议极大的MEI（能力、卓越、智慧）招聘原则——这究竟是出于真心，还是精心的权力游戏？ 本期，我们请到了Scale AI早期员工小蒋，透过第一手经历，聊聊这位“机会主义者”如何在极客与政客之间切换，在硅谷风口中找到属于自己的位置。 更正：节目中提到Meta Superintelligence Labs更名为TBD Lab，根据最新报道，TBD Lab是Meta Superintelligence Labs的一个部门 He is a rising star of Silicon Valley, born in 1997 and already serving as Meta’s Chief AI Officer at just 28. From dropping out of MIT to founding the unicorn Scale AI, Alexandr Wang’s ascent has been nothing short of meteoric. But beyond the dazzling résumé, his personality is far more intriguing: both an Olympiad geek and a party regular; equally adept at navigating Silicon Valley’s social networks and lobbying the more traditional, elite circles of Washington to secure defense contracts. He also introduced the highly controversial MEI (Merit, Excellence, Intelligence) hiring principle—was this a genuine belief, or a calculated power play? In this episode, we’re joined by Xiao Jiang, an early employee of Scale AI, who shares first-hand stories about how this “opportunist” moves fluidly between geeks and politicians, carving out his place at the very heart of Silicon Valley’s AI boom. Correction: The program mentioned that Meta Superintelligence Labs was renamed to TBD Lab. According to the latest reports, TBD Lab is a division of Meta Superintelligence Labs. 【购票链接 The Link】 Destination Undefined — 新戏胞剧团 【时间轴 The When】 00:02:44 – 谁是Alexandr Wang 00:04:10 – Meta收购Scale股份与AI人才大战 00:07:33 – Alex作为二代华人移民的早年经历 00:09:18 – 从MIT辍学到加入YC及创业 00:12:23 – 早期员工爆料：对Alex的初印象和面试风格 00:26:11 – 数据标注的难度与护城河 00:31:31 – 劳工争议与运营挑战 00:37:11 – Alex Wang与Sam Altman的关系 00:40:52 – 转向国防与政治姿态 00:50:45 – DEI vs. MEI 争议 00:57:12 – Alex与扎克伯格的关系 01:03:09 – Super Intelligence Lab未来将会如何？ 00:02:44 – Who is Alexandr Wang 00:04:10 – Meta’s acquisition of Scale shares and the AI talent war 00:07:33 – Alex’s early years as a second-generation Chinese immigrant 00:09:18 – From dropping out of MIT to joining YC and starting a company 00:12:23 – Early employee insights: first impressions of Alex and his interview style 00:26:11 – The difficulty and moat of data labeling 00:31:31 – Labor disputes and operational challenges 00:37:11 – Alexandr Wang’s relationship with Sam Altman 00:40:52 – Shift toward defense and political positioning 00:50:45 – The DEI vs. MEI controversy 00:57:12 – Alex and Mark Zuckerberg’s relationship 01:03:09 – What’s next for the Super Intelligence Lab? 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 本期嘉宾： 小蒋：人工智能从业者，Scale AI早期员工 【拓展链接 The Links】 The Information：《名声、争议与财富：亿万富翁 Alexandr Wang 硅谷崛起全记录》 - Fortune：《走近 Alexandr Wang 的崛起与 Meta 斥资 140 亿美元的豪赌》 Forbes：《22 岁创始人如何把 Scale AI 打造成数十亿美元企业》 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com
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