
In June 1989, the world watched as the Chinese government declared martial law and sent troops into Beijing to end the student-led demonstrations in Tiananmen Square. The crackdown — now known as the Tiananmen Square Massacre — remains one of the most consequential and censored events in modern Chinese history. In this episode, we sit down with Wu’er Kaixi, one of the most prominent student leaders of the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests. More than three decades later, he reflects on the events of June 1989 and their aftermath, the personal cost of defying the Chinese Communist Party and the reality of life in exile. Recorded in Taiwan in June 2025, this conversation explores the legacy of Tiananmen, the state of democracy and dissent in China today, and what Wu’er Kaixi believes the world still misunderstands about the Chinese Communist Party and the future of China. This is a firsthand account of protest, power, and political resistance — and a rare opportunity to hear directly from one of the central figures of 1989.
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