Performance Intelligence

Bite Size: How to Step Down Without Screwing It Up | Michael Bungay Stanier

September 20, 2026·9 min
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Founders love to talk about building a company. They rarely talk honestly about giving it up. Michael Bungay Stanier, best known for his book The Coaching Habit, did exactly that at Box of Crayons, the company he founded, stepping down as CEO in a transition he says most founders manage badly. What made his different, and the specific temptation he had to resist to actually let go, is the part of this conversation worth sitting with. Find Michael at his LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbungaystanier/                           Or Website: https://www.mbs.works/Buy a copy of Michael's books: https://www.booktopia.com.au/michael-bungay-stanier/author1256.htmlHigh performance is not about pushing harder. It is about building the capacity to perform when it matters and sustain it over time.Hosted by Andrew May, one of Australia’s leading experts in human performance, leadership and mental skills, the Performance Intelligence Podcast explores how leaders, athletes, coaches and researchers think clearly, manage pressure and consistently perform at their best.Drawing on more than 20 years working with senior executives, elite sporting teams and the Australian Defence Force, Andrew combines candid conversations with evidence-based performance insights and practical strategies you can apply.Episodes span leadership capacity, performance psychology, mental skills, energy management, strategic recovery, productivity and wellbeing. Listen to think more clearly, lead more effectively and perform at your best for longer.Get in touch through:Our website: https://performanceintelligence.com/Book Andrew: https://performanceintelligence.com/keynotes/Follow us: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/performanceintelligencepq/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/performanceintelligence-byandrewmay Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/performanceintelligencebyam/ Watch this episode on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@performanceintelligencepodcastIf you enjoy the podcast, we would really appreciate you leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Google Play. It takes less than 60 seconds and really helps us build our audience and continue to provide high quality guests.

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