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by Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson
Welcome to the Passive Income Pilots Podcast – the show designed to help pilots climb to new levels of financial success. Join Tait Duryea & Ryan Gibson, both airline pilots, business owners and investors, as they interview top experts and share practical knowledge on real estate, tax strategy, passive income and generational wealth. This one-of-a-kind show created specifically for professional pilots offers applicable strategies and tactics for improving your financial life. Whether you're a seasoned pilot or just starting out, we'll equip you with the expertise and confidence you need to upgrade your money and achieve true financial independence.
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- 4 days ago50 min
#163 - From Pilot Spouse to Café Owner with Brenda Gage
Join us on October 8–9, 2026, at the M Resort and Casino in Las Vegas for the first-ever Passive Income Pilots Conference. Learn how to build smarter wealth beyond the cockpit - https://www.passiveincomepilots.com/pip-conference A practical path to business ownership. Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Brenda Gage, a pilot spouse who turned a long-time goal of business ownership into a growing café portfolio. Brenda shares how she found established, cash-flowing businesses, evaluated opportunities on BizBuySell, used SBA financing, and pushed through lender rejections. She also explains why culture, employee retention, and a respectful seller transition matter just as much as the numbers. This episode offers a grounded look at acquiring a business beyond franchises or real estate.Brenda Gage is the owner of a growing chain of Washington cafés and Larson’s Bakery. Married to an Alaska Airlines pilot, she built a flexible career around family life before acquiring eight cafés through SBA financing. In three years, she helped grow annual revenue from approximately $16.7 million to $21 million. Brenda shares practical insights on finding established businesses, securing the right lending partner, leading employees through ownership transitions, and preserving the legacy of family-owned companies.Show notes: Passive Income Pilots Conference announcement: https://www.passiveincomepilots.com/pip-conference Brenda’s path to business ownership Finding cash-flowing businesses online Growing the café business How BizBuySell works Criteria for legacy businesses Leading without industry expertise Funding an acquisition with SBA loans Finding the right SBA lender How a business purchase closes Leading staff through ownership change OutroConnect with Brenda Gage:Website: https://www.cafesinc.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brenda-gage-12796592/ If you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.
- 1 weeks ago1h 41m
#162 - The 2026 Airline Pilot Career Outlook with Kit Darby
Watch this episode on YouTube to see the screen share: https://youtu.be/GjCnHgscdms Join us on October 8–9, 2026, at the M Resort and Casino in Las Vegas for the first-ever Passive Income Pilots Conference. Learn how to build smarter wealth beyond the cockpit - https://www.passiveincomepilots.com/pip-conference Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Captain Kit Darby for a detailed look at the airline industry in 2026. Kit breaks down pilot hiring, retirements, fleet delays, fuel costs, widebody opportunities, compensation, and retirement benefits. He also shares practical advice for aspiring pilots preparing for interviews and explains why pilots should build financial resilience outside their airline career. This episode offers a clear, data-driven perspective for pilots planning their next professional and financial move.Captain Kit Darby is a retired United Airlines pilot, aviation consultant, and president of KitDarby.com. With decades of experience across military, commercial, training, and airline operations, he specializes in pilot hiring trends, career planning, compensation analysis, application reviews, and interview preparation.Show notes: Passive Income Pilots Conference announcement: https://www.passiveincomepilots.com/pip-conference Kit Darby’s aviation career Today’s pilot hiring environment Investing wisely to get hired Why interview preparation matters Airline recovery and fuel outlook Retirements and future pilot demand Fleet shortages and grounded aircraft Pilot demand through 2034 Career value, pay, and retirement OutroConnect with Kit Darby:Website: https://kitdarby.com/wp/ Related Episode: #34 - Navigating Cash Balance Plans And Retirement For Airline And Corporate Pilots With Tim Pope#83 - Market-Based Cash Balance Plans with Jesse ReedIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation commun
- 2 weeks ago49 min
#161 - Aircraft Ownership, Insurance, and Liability with Scott Williams
Buying an airplane can create opportunities and legal exposure that pilots may not see until something goes wrong. Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with aviation attorney and pilot Scott Williams to cover LLC structures, dry leases, co-ownership, and the limits of depreciation for passive real estate activity. Scott also explains key insurance terms, including smooth coverage, open pilot warranties, and waivers of subrogation. A practical conversation for pilots who want to protect their aircraft, finances, and future.Scott Williams is the founding principal attorney of the General Aviation Law Firm and a pilot with 38 years of flying experience and roughly 4,000 flight hours. He helps Part 91 aircraft owners buy, sell, structure, and operate aircraft while avoiding unintended legal and regulatory risks. Scott is also a Cirrus SR22 owner and former president of the Cirrus Owners and Pilots Association.Show notes: Intro Why aircraft belong in LLCs Structuring aircraft co-ownership Passive real estate tax limits Dry leases and operational control Named insureds Vs. Named pilots LLC setup and aircraft domicile Using a trust for ownership Insurance as first-line protection Smooth Vs. Sublimit coverage Passenger waivers and liability OutroConnect with Scott Williams:Website: https://www.generalaviationlaw.org/ If you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomep
- 3 weeks ago50 min
#160 - Insurance Strategies for High-Income Professionals with Rod Zabriskie
Insurance may not feel exciting until it becomes the thing protecting everything you’ve built. In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Rod Zabriskie to unpack the coverage high-income professionals often overlook, from income protection and asset defense to long-term planning and liquidity. For pilots, physicians, business owners, and investors, this conversation offers a timely look at how the right insurance strategy can support wealth building, passive income goals, and family security before life forces the issue.Rod Zabriskie is the President and Co-Founder of Money Insights Group, a financial strategy firm that helps high-income earners think beyond conventional planning and build wealth with greater control and protection. Known for his education-first approach, Rod helps clients connect insurance, alternative assets, tax strategy, and legacy planning into one cohesive financial system. He brings a practical lens to insurance, helping clients understand the coverages that can protect their income, family, assets, and future opportunities.Show notes: Backcountry flying and insurance Ten insurance categories Health insurance essentials FSA Vs. HSA Homeowners and renters insurance Protecting personal assets Disability insurance basics Loss of medical coverage Long-term care insurance Term and whole life insurance OutroConnect with Rod Zabriskie:Website: https://www.moneyinsightsgroup.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rodzabriskie/ Related Episode: #82 - From LLCs and HSAs to Roth IRAs: Mastering Wealth Protection with Mark Kohler#67 - Protecting Your Wings: What Pilots Need to Know with Dr. Dan Monlux#47 - Innovative Wealth Strategies: From Life Insurance to Alternative Investing with Christian Allen and Rod ZabriskieIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.<span sty
- Jun 30, 202636 min
#159 - How Deferred Sales Trusts Work with Trevor Kuresa
Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Trevor Kuresa to unpack the Deferred Sales Trust, a lesser-known strategy for deferring capital gains after selling a business or highly appreciated asset. Trevor explains how the structure works, why it differs from a 1031 exchange or monetized installment sale, and when the costs, timing, and compliance rules make sense. For pilots, real estate investors, and business owners thinking about a future exit, this episode offers a practical look at tax planning before a major transaction.Trevor Kuresa is a corporate and tax attorney specializing in mergers and acquisitions, fractional general counsel, and advanced tax strategies for business owners and high-income professionals. With experience in tax structuring, legal transactions, and corporate counsel work, Trevor helps clients evaluate strategies for reducing or deferring capital gains and income tax.Show notes: Chamonix race recap Deferred Sales Trust intro Trevor’s legal background Tax strategy for pilots Deferred sales trust explained Rental property example Best use cases Tax deferral mechanics IRS rules and risks OutroConnect with Trevor:Website: https://hibiscuslegal.com/ Email: tkuresa@hibiscuslegal.com Phone: 801-577-3445LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/trevor-kuresa-36b59339/ Related Episode: #10 - Reduce Your Taxes & Maximize Returns Using PROVEN Investment Strategies with Toby MathisIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/<span style="background-color
- Jun 24, 202630 min
#158 - Why the 10-30-30-30 Strategy Could Change How Pilots Invest
Is your wealth strategy working together or pulling in different directions? Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson unpack the 10-30-30-30 strategy for balancing cash, 401(k)s, real estate, tax benefits, and passive investments. They explain why liquidity, control, and tax strategy all matter, and how short-term rentals, syndications, oil and gas, and self-storage can fit into a pilot’s portfolio. Plus, they preview Passive Income Pilots Live in Las Vegas, a new event focused on financial education, estate planning, due diligence, and community.Show notes: Intro Diversifying pilot investments The 10-30-30-30 strategy Managed money and 401(k)s 2026 401(k) limits Tax-advantaged real estate Short-term rental episodes Passive investments and syndications Oil and gas tax benefits Passive Income Pilots Live OutroRelated Episodes: #87 - The Mega Backdoor Roth and How Pilots Can Maximize Retirement Contributions with Timothy Pope#14 - Depreciation Demystified: Cost Segregation and Tax Savings in Real Estate with Toby Mathis#37 - Empowering Insights and Strategies On Short-Term Rentals with Alex Jarbo#41 - Short-Term Rental Strategies To Maximize Your Passive Income with Dan Templin#68 - Cruising to Success: Optimizing Your Short-Term Rentals with Airbnb Insider Daniel Rusteen#110 - The IRA Club Advantage: The Self-Directed IRA Strategy for Pilots with Ramez FakhouryEvent Mentioned: Passive Income Pilots Live Conference - Location: Las Vegas, Dates: October 8–9.For updates on tickets and details, keep an eye out for the official announcement from Passive Income Pilots.If you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the i
- Jun 16, 202657 min
#157 - Who Gets Paid First? How Real Estate Deals Are Actually Structured
Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson break down one of the most important but often misunderstood parts of real estate investing: the capital stack. They explain how senior debt, mezzanine debt, preferred equity, and common equity shape risk, returns, and who gets paid first. For pilots and high-income professionals evaluating passive income opportunities, this episode offers a practical framework for understanding leverage, deal structure, DSCR, private credit, and why projected returns do not tell the whole story.Show notes: Intro Ways investors get paid Capital stack basics Debt drives real estate risk All-cash versus leveraged deals Common equity explained Preferred equity position Checking debt ahead Rescue capital versus healthy deals Operator view on structure DSCR and cash flow cushion OutroRelated Episode: #2 - Invest Passively in DST and Opportunity Zones with Brandon BruckmanIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/" target="_bl
- Jun 9, 202643 min
#157 - Oil, Gas, AI, and the Next Energy Boom with Elena Melchert
Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Elena Melchert to examine how energy demand, fossil fuels, mineral rights, royalties, and infrastructure shape real passive income opportunities. Elena brings a grounded, technical perspective to a sector many investors hear about but rarely understand deeply. For pilots and high-income professionals looking at alternative investments, tax strategy, and long-term cash flow, this conversation offers a clearer way to think about energy as both a global necessity and a potential portfolio play.Elena Subia Melchert is the founder and president of Energia Consulting LLC and host of Oil and Gas Upstream. With a career spanning engineering, energy technology, federal policy, and industry advisory work, Elena helps connect technical expertise with practical energy solutions. Her background includes leadership in upstream research at the U.S. Department of Energy, along with ongoing work in emerging energy areas such as geothermal, carbon storage, produced water, and geologic hydrogen. She brings rare depth, clarity, and real-world perspective to today’s energy conversation.Show notes: Intro Elena’s oil and gas background Upstream research and technology The reality of energy transition Energy poverty around the world Pilots, fuel costs, and investing Fossil fuels over the next 50 years Infrastructure versus production How oil and gas royalties work Royalties during market downturns Geothermal and critical minerals OutroConnect with Elena Melchert:Website: https://energiaconsultingllc.com/our-company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elenamelchert/ Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/oil-and-gas-upstream/id1450833136 If you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com!
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