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by Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson
Welcome to the Passive Income Pilots Podcast – the show designed to help pilots climb to new levels of financial success. Join Tait Duryea & Ryan Gibson, both airline pilots, business owners and investors, as they interview top experts and share practical knowledge on real estate, tax strategy, passive income and generational wealth. This one-of-a-kind show created specifically for professional pilots offers applicable strategies and tactics for improving your financial life. Whether you're a seasoned pilot or just starting out, we'll equip you with the expertise and confidence you need to upgrade your money and achieve true financial independence.
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- 1 weeks ago43 min
#173 - The Rich Man’s Roth: A Smarter Way to Retire Tax-Free with Brenyn McConell and Blake Brogan
Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Money Insights wealth strategists Brenyn McConnell and Blake Brogan to explore how pilots can create more tax-efficient retirement income beyond a traditional 401(k). They break down how properly structured whole life insurance can provide liquidity, tax-free access to cash value, long-term care benefits, and estate-planning flexibility. Discover how this strategy can complement Roth conversions and alternative investments while helping high-income pilots reduce their dependence on taxable retirement accounts and build greater financial flexibility for the years ahead.Brenyn McConnell and Blake Brogan are Wealth Strategists at Money Insights, where they help high-income professionals build more efficient wealth strategies using high-cash-value life insurance and alternative investments. Brenyn has worked in financial services since 2018, while Blake brings roughly a decade of industry experience focused largely on overfunded life insurance strategies. They teach how properly structured policies can support tax-free retirement income, long-term care planning, liquidity, and generational wealth.Show notes: Intro Diversifying beyond the traditional 401(k) The 401(k) retirement tax problem Roth conversions and tax planning Creating tax-free policy income $2.5M cash value example Accessing money before retirement age Life insurance as a vehicle Designing a self-sustaining policy Avoiding poorly designed policies Planning for long-term care Estate and wealth-transfer planning OutroConnect with Brenyn McConell & Blake Brogan:Website: https://insights.moneyinsightsgroup.com/pilots Related Episode:#47 - Innovative Wealth Strategies and Alternative Investing with Christian Allen and Rod ZabriskieIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ <span style="background-color: transparent; color:
- 2 weeks ago32 min
#172 - Pilot Wealth Q&A: Taxes, Trusts, Real Estate, and Passive Income
Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson close out the Passive Income Pilots Conference with a rapid-fire Q&A alongside experts Koy Harris, David Vanlandingham, Kurt Harris, and Adam Kintigh. Drawing on their expertise in estate planning, asset protection, business structuring, and tax strategies, the panel answers real-world questions about self-storage investing, tax withholding, privacy trusts, cost segregation, retirement conversions, and depreciation recapture. Pilots and high-income professionals will gain a clearer understanding of how to structure investments, protect real estate assets, avoid costly tax mistakes, and evaluate opportunities to generate passive income without adding unnecessary responsibilities to their already demanding careers.Show notes: Intro Self-storage market outlook House hacking and privacy trusts Managing tax withholding strategically Replacing captain pay passively Homestead and privacy trusts Cost segregation on older rentals Investing without active real estate Naming trusts for asset privacy Leveraging paid-off rental properties Using real estate professional status OutroIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on Li
- 3 weeks ago45 min
#171 - From STRs to Roth IRAs: A Pilot’s Wealth Playbook
Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson host a live Q&A with Adam Kintigh, Kurt Harris, and David Vanlandingham covering the financial questions pilots face as their income and investments grow. From short-term rental tax strategies and Roth conversions to self-directed IRAs, 401(k) contributions, real estate leverage, and estate planning, the panel examines how different pieces of a wealth plan fit together. Pilots will leave with practical guidance on deploying capital more efficiently while balancing tax savings, liquidity, retirement planning, and long-term financial freedom.Show notes: Intro Where to hold investment cash STR depreciation recapture strategies Moving beyond a scarcity mindset Short-term rental tax qualification When passive income becomes enough Traditional-to-Roth conversion strategies Choosing cash versus retirement funds Optimizing pilot 401(k) contributions Financing short-term rental properties Avoiding major estate planning mistakes OutroIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/<p
- Oct 7, 202639 min
#170 - The Get Rich Slow Strategy for Passive Investors with Jeremy Roll
Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with veteran passive investor Jeremy Roll to discuss building wealth beyond traditional stocks and 401(k)s. Jeremy shares how more than two decades of alternative investing shaped his approach to market cycles, diversification, liquidity, and passive cash flow. They also discuss preparing for market corrections, creating life-changing income through a “get rich slow” strategy, tax advantages of alternative investments, and managing dozens of K-1s. For pilots looking to build additional income without relying entirely on the stock market, this episode offers a long-term investor’s perspective.Jeremy Roll is the Founder and President of Roll Investment Group and a longtime passive investor in real estate and private businesses. Before becoming a full-time investor, he spent more than a decade in the corporate world, including roles at Disney and Toyota, and earned his MBA from The Wharton School. Jeremy is also a co-founder of For Investors By Investors (FIBI), a nonprofit investor education and networking community. Known for his disciplined, research-driven approach, he has participated in more than 200 managed investments over his investing career.Show notes: Intro Jeremy Roll’s investing background Investing through market cycles Preparing for a market correction Market concentration and margin debt Diversifying beyond the 401(k) Building life-changing passive income The get rich slow strategy Tax advantages of alternatives Where Jeremy is investing today Managing multiple K-1s OutroConnect with Jeremy Roll:Email: jroll@rollinvestments.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jeremy-roll-655107 If you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community o
- Sep 30, 202641 min
#169 - When Passive Real Estate Isn’t Really Passive
Join us on October 8–9, 2026, in Las Vegas, Nevada, for the first-ever Passive Income Pilots Conference. Learn how to build smarter wealth beyond the cockpit: https://www.passiveincomepilots.com/pip-conference Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson examine the side of real estate investing that spreadsheets often miss, the return on life. Drawing from their own experiences with rental properties, they discuss when active ownership is worth the time, why so-called passive investments can start to feel like another job, and how pilots should think about short-term rentals beyond the tax benefits. They also cover cost segregation, bonus depreciation, depreciation recapture, 1031 exchanges, and why buying assets you are comfortable holding long term can matter. For pilots focused on tax efficiency and financial independence, this episode offers a practical look at what real estate ownership can actually require.Show notes: Passive Income Pilots Conference announcement: https://www.passiveincomepilots.com/pip-conference Reality of active real estate investing Measuring your return on life Tait’s costly multifamily lesson Moving from active to passive investing Short-term rentals and tax benefits Grade the deal and lifestyle Short-term rentals are hospitality businesses Cost segregation and CPA planning Depreciation recapture when selling Buying assets for long-term wealth OutroRelated Episodes:#32 - Tax Savvy Investing: The Power of Cost Segregation with Yonah Weiss#85 - Cost Segregation: The Tax Strategy You Can’t Afford to Ignore with Erik Oliver#144 - Depreciation, Cost Segs, and the IRS Rules Pilots Miss with Brandon Hall#145 - Bonus Depreciation & Cost Seg: The Tax Strategy Pilots Can’t Ignore with Gian PazziaBook Reference:Optimize YOUR BnbIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ <
- Sep 25, 202644 min
#168 - How Smart Investors Vet Real Estate Deals Together with Larry Lemer and Mark Goldstein
Join us on October 8–9, 2026, in Las Vegas, Nevada for the first-ever Passive Income Pilots Conference. Learn how to build smarter wealth beyond the cockpit: https://www.passiveincomepilots.com/pip-conference Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Larry Lemer and Mark Goldstein of Foliage to examine how a community of accredited investors approaches commercial real estate together without pooling money or making investment recommendations. They cover Foliage’s syndicator vetting process, its extensive due diligence questions, operator trust and execution, portfolio diversification, and lessons learned from deals that did not go as planned. For pilots and high-income professionals considering alternative investments, the conversation shows how surrounding yourself with experienced investors can bring additional perspectives to your own decision-making.Larry Lemer and Mark E. Goldstein are co-founders of Foliage, a private investor education group that brings together accredited investors, including airline pilots, to evaluate commercial real estate opportunities. Larry brings roughly 20 years of real estate investing experience, while Mark draws on his corporate leadership and private equity background. Together, they emphasize rigorous due diligence, trusted operators, and the value of learning from a network of experienced investors.Show notes: Passive Income Pilots Conference announcement: https://www.passiveincomepilots.com/pip-conference How Foliage vets syndicators How the group started Value of diverse investor perspectives Foliage is not a fund Education through the syndication playbook Case for alternative assets Lessons from investing mistakes Understanding deals and trusting operators Red flags when vetting syndicators OutroConnect with Larry Lemer and Mark Goldstein:Website: https://www.foliageig.com/ Larry’s email: larry@foliageig.com Larry’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/larry-lemer-0503aa5/ Mark’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-goldstein/ Link to their Book: https://amzn.to/4rxzrn9 If you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality
- Sep 15, 202658 min
#167 - From Wall Street to Infinite Banking with Chris Naugle
Join us on October 8–9, 2026, in Las Vegas, Nevada for the first-ever Passive Income Pilots Conference. Learn how to build smarter wealth beyond the cockpit: https://www.passiveincomepilots.com/pip-conference Tait Duryea welcomes Chris Naugle to discuss his unconventional path from professional snowboarding and Wall Street to real estate and privatized banking. Chris shares lessons from building businesses, surviving financial setbacks, owning dozens of rental units, and completing hundreds of flips before discovering the Infinite Banking Concept. They examine how specially designed whole life policies can support private lending, real estate investing, debt strategies, and greater control over capital while highlighting the discipline required to make the strategy work.Chris Naugle is a wealth educator, entrepreneur, real estate investor, and former registered investment advisor specializing in privatized banking and the Infinite Banking Concept. A former professional snowboarder, Chris built multiple businesses before moving into financial services, real estate investing, and private lending. His experience includes managing investment assets, completing hundreds of house flips, appearing on HGTV’s Risky Builders, and building systems designed to help investors take greater control of their capital. Show notes: Passive Income Pilots Conference announcement: https://www.passiveincomepilots.com/pip-conference Chris Naugle’s wealth-building journey Building a business at seventeen Transition from retail to Wall Street Building a financial advisory career First lessons in real estate Hitting the real estate debt wall From house flipping to HGTV Discovering privatized banking Rethinking traditional money strategies Infinite banking versus securities-backed credit OutroConnect with Chris Naugle:Website: https://www.chrisnaugle.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thechrisnaugle/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/thechrisnaugle If you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ <strong sty
- Sep 8, 202639 min
#166 - Fly-Inn Rentals for Pilots and Investors with Carollyne Carmichel & Kenya Hodson
Join us on October 8–9, 2026, in Las Vegas, Nevada for the first-ever Passive Income Pilots Conference. Learn how to build smarter wealth beyond the cockpit: https://www.passiveincomepilots.com/pip-conference Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Carollyne Carmichel and Kenya Hodson to discuss how a booking platform is changing the way pilots plan their getaways and owners market airport-adjacent properties. They share why general aviation travelers need more than a runway, what makes a stay truly pilot-friendly, and how Fly-Inn bridges the gap between landing and enjoying the destination. The conversation also considers the opportunity for pilots with short-term rentals, from meeting core hosting requirements to serving a highly specific guest base.Carollyne Carmichel and Kenya Hodson are the mother-daughter founders of Fly-Inn, a short-term rental platform created for general aviation travelers. Built around pilot-friendly lodging, Fly-Inn connects guests with properties that offer nearby landing access, aircraft security, and ground transportation. Carollyne is a passionate general aviation pilot and property owner, while Kenya helps grow the platform through operations and technology.Show notes: Passive Income Pilots Conference announcement: https://www.passiveincomepilots.com/pip-conference Fly-Inn’s pilot-first booking platform From boring destinations to business Private strips and nearby airports How hosts and Fly-Inn earn Landing permission at private strips Five promises for every host Short-term rental considerations What makes destinations perform Referring pilot-friendly properties Sync calendars across booking platforms OutroConnect with Carollyne and Kenya:Website: https://www.fly-inn.com/Carollyne's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carollyne-b-carmichel-833-i-fly-inn/ Kenya’s IG: https://www.instagram.com/kenyahodsont/ If you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! <a href=
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Welcome to the Passive Income Pilots Podcast – the show designed to help pilots climb to new levels of financial success. Join Tait Duryea & Ryan Gibson, both airline pilots, business owners and investors, as they interview top experts and share practical knowledge on real estate, tax strategy, passive income and generational wealth. This one-of-a-kind show created specifically for professional pilots offers applicable strategies and tactics for improving your financial life. Whether you're a seasoned pilot or just starting out, we'll equip you with the expertise and confidence you need to upgrade your money and achieve true financial independence.
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