Episode 199: Ethan and Leland Osterhout | 20 Feet From History — Witnessing the Charlie Kirk Assassination

Ladies and Gentlemen and whoever else is listening. The opinions of Brian, your host and our guests have not been sanitized or scientifically tested so please consume at your own risk. Ethan and Leland reflect on what it means to be close—not just physically, but emotionally—to a moment that altered the course of many lives. Just 20 feet away, they found themselves inside a violent, chaotic event surrounding the Charlie Kirk assassination at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah. Seconds felt suspended and normalcy vanished. This conversation isn’t about replaying headlines or assigning meaning too quickly; it’s about memory, proximity, and the quiet aftermath that lingers long after the crowd disperses and media stories fade. What stays with you when you realize you were close enough to history to feel it move? Contact:  Leland - https://www.instagram.com/leland_osterhout/ Ethan - https://www.instagram.com/lelegoman/ References and Time Stamp Call-outs: @ 10:19 - The Chaos Machine - Amazon Link  @ 16:55 - DSM5 - The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition @ 37:00 - Leland interviewed on ABC4 Salt Lake City #CharlieKirkAssassination #UtahValleyUniversity #UVU #CharlieKirk #TurningPointUSA #ProveMeWrong #WhenHistoryTurns #ProximityToTragedy #UnforgettableMoments #LivingThroughHistory #20FeetFromHistory