
Welcome to Season 14, Episode 7 of Notes to My (Legal) Self. In this episode, host Olga Mack sits down with Marco Imperiale to explore a fundamental question: Do lawyers truly understand the people they serve?Together, they examine how legal design, curiosity, communication, and human-centered thinking are reshaping the future of legal practice. From client engagement to innovation, Marco challenges long-held assumptions about how lawyers work and why many legal processes remain disconnected from the people they are meant to help.Marco Imperiale is a legal innovation leader, legal designer, entrepreneur, author, and founder of Better Ipsum. A former lawyer and one of Italy's first Heads of Innovation for a law firm, Marco has spent years helping legal departments, law firms, and institutions rethink legal services through design thinking, legal operations, and human-centered approaches. He is also the author of *Practicing Legal Design*, a practical guide to implementing legal design in real-world legal environments.Key insights from this episode:• Why legal design is about much more than visuals and simplified contracts• The importance of listening before advising• How curiosity creates better outcomes than certainty• Why engagement drives understanding and trust• The role of play, experimentation, and prototyping in innovation• How lawyers can better understand clients, customers, and stakeholders• Why humility may be one of the most important leadership skills in law• The connection between legal communication, accessibility, and inclusionThis episode is for in-house counsel, law firm leaders, legal operations professionals, legal innovators, and anyone interested in creating more effective, human-centered legal experiences.If you've ever wondered how legal services can become more engaging, accessible, and impactful, this conversation offers practical insights and a fresh perspective.Takeaways:• Curiosity is often more valuable than expertise alone• Great legal service starts with understanding the client experience• Legal design challenges assumptions about how legal work should be delivered• Innovation requires experimentation, testing, and feedback• Play can unlock creativity, engagement, and breakthrough thinking• The future of law will be increasingly human-centered• Less ego and more humility can transform professional relationships
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