The Lean-Left Chip Is a Fad. Ben Doyle Never Needed It (with Kieran Harris and JT Perrine) | Ep. 18

Sam is out, so the Good Misses guys sit in. Brian Manzella, Golf Digest's #14-ranked teacher in America, asks Kieran Harris and JT Perrine where the lean-left, ball-back chip shot came from, and neither of them saw it taught 13 years ago. Brian makes the case that it's a fad: Ben Doyle never needed it, there's no mechanical requirement to be in front of the ball except your hands, and regular golfers are never going to hit the tour version anyway. Plus the 100-golfer pitching contest, the flick drill, why handle dragging is the root of most pitching yips, the right-knee rule that shamed a generation, and why nothing out there is the solution to the pitching yip epidemic.Chapters 0:00 Cold open 0:45 No More Lies 1:09 Sam is out. Meet Kieran Harris and JT Perrine 3:05 The Big Lie: where did the lean-left chip come from? 4:59 Brian's short game growing up: chipping on total crap 7:16 Left-leaning spines with the ball back. Why is it a thing now? 9:37 JT: chin over the belt buckle, ball first contact 10:13 Arc depth vs. low point, defined on Trackman 13:38 Nobody taught it 13 years ago 15:04 Kieran: more weight left, never spine tilt left 17:07 Kieran's full-blown chipping yips 19:30 Ben Doyle: the tee drill and the three wood pitch 22:09 No mechanical requirement to be in front of the ball 22:53 The Nunez Tour will never hit the tour pitch shot 25:46 How much angle of attack? JT says 3 to 4 down 26:41 The 10-handicapper lesson test 28:28 Kevin from the Nunez Tour goes to Toronto for a pitching lesson 31:35 The "I'm not getting under it" crowd 34:31 Through the ball: toss it or keep it up the left arm? 35:23 The 100-golfer pitching contest: wrist only vs. no wrist 39:08 Same contest, everybody has the yips 41:13 The flick drill: hands don't move 42:40 Handle dragging is the root of most pitching yips 44:41 Kieran's de-junk drill: trigger finger on the steel 46:26 JT is going to try the flick 47:07 Where's your data? Ridiculous Trials 48:40 Three forces and three torques: the rope 50:14 Why the bunker shot is easy and the 15-yard pitch isn't 52:58 The right knee: shamed from 1960 to the early 80s 54:36 The lean-left chip is a fad 55:37 None of these are the solution to the pitching yip epidemic 56:35 Paul Runyan and the restricted grip 57:28 Seve's trail shoulder and Dan Grieve's 3 Releases 59:19 What is Good Misses? 60:50 We're golf geeks. Not better, more like youKieran Harris runs Feel Good Golf Academy in Toronto. JT Perrine is part owner of Fairhope Golf Works in Fairhope, Alabama. Together they host Good Misses, part of the Funnel Golf slate.New episodes of No More Lies every week. Subscribe so you don't miss one.