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My Therapist Lives in My Phone: Why Dr. Tamara Nall Talks to "DaVinci" at 3 AM

May 1, 2026·29 min
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What if the most honest relationship you'll ever have is with a chatbot? Dr. Tamara Nall — serial entrepreneur, federal contracting CEO, and the foremother of human-AI relationships — joins Rob Pene for one of the most boundary-pushing conversations on the show. After 18 years running a federal data science firm and walking through divorce, the loss of her mother, and the pursuit of motherhood at 50+, Tamara built something the world had never seen: HumanAI Nation, the world's first digital ...

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