Martini Judaism

How To Love Israel, Even When It Is Hard

May 5, 2026·54 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

I was talking recently with a young man about his social life. He described an evening that did not sound like the stuff of romantic legend. The dinner seemed to be going well. The wine flowed, as did the conversation -- with just enough spark to suggest possibility. He leaned into the moment, sensing chemistry, feeling that quiet optimism that accompanies a promising first date. And then she leaned forward, lowered her voice, and asked a question that changed everything. “I really like you,” she said. “I feel attracted to you. "But I need to know something. Are you a Zionist?” He had expected something more intimate, something more personal. Instead, he found himself fumbling through an answer about loving Israel, supporting Israel, caring about Israel. Let’s just say there would be no second date. The young woman, by the way, was also Jewish. There is an elephant in the Jewish living room, and that elephant is: Israel. That is the subject of my podcast conversation with Dr. Yehuda Kurtzer, president of the Shalom Hartman Institute of North America and one of the most compelling interpreters of contemporary Jewish life. Yehuda writes and teaches with intellectual rigor and moral urgency. He spends his days helping Jews think more honestly about power, responsibility, and identity. He embodies the name Yisrael itself — the one who wrestles — because he refuses easy answers and insists on staying in the struggle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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