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The Marketing 4 Business Podcast gives business owners the insights and strategies they need to succeed. M4B episodes feature a mix of interviews with successful business owners, during which we discuss their business, marketing, and mindset.Plus, you will get actionable direct response marketing advice and real-world examples of what works from your Marketing 4 Business Podcast host Scott Wilson.
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- 4 days ago57 min
Radio Was Supposed to Be Dead: Why It Is Still Winning in NZ
Everyone said radio would be dead by now. It is not, and the reason has nothing to do with the music.In this Marketing 4 Business episode, Scott chats with Kate James, newly appointed General Manager of MediaWorks Canterbury, about what actually makes advertising work for a local business, and what business owners keep getting wrong before they even book a campaign. Kate started out cooking sausages outside appliance stores and car yards on a Saturday, and has spent more than 20 years across promotions, client services, integration and sales. She is refreshingly blunt about what works, what does not, and where media reps should be pushing back harder. Insights you can use straight away, including:Why radio's real job is building trust, not reach, and why that matters more in a market full of "click here, buy this"What to turn up with before you brief any media rep, starting with who your customer actually is, because "anyone from 10 to 80" is not a target marketThe underspend trap: how a budget that is slightly too small wastes the entire thing, and the honest conversation your rep should be having upfrontWhy one station done properly beats four done thinly, every timeThe nationwide advertiser that dropped radio for a pure digital strategy, and why they have come fully back to TV and radioHow digital audio and Rover put targeting by age, gender and location within reach of a local budgetWhy stopping your marketing hands the opportunity straight to a competitor, and why you will not feel it for six monthsThe florist in his 70s who refused to let anyone underspend his budget, because he knew he was buying customers, not salesWhat the best salespeople actually have in common, and why it is not polishIf you are a business owner deciding where the next marketing dollar goes, wondering whether radio still deserves a slice, or trying to work out what a decent budget really looks like, this episode is well worth your time.Download the Local Business AEO Playbook HERE. A free, step-by-step guide showing you how to position your business to be recommended by AI.If you found this episode valuable, please share it with another business owner who could benefit. Don't forget to follow Marketing 4 Business on your favourite podcast platform, and if you enjoyed the episode, we'd really appreciate a five-star review. Your support helps us reach more business owners with practical marketing insights.Connect with us:Follow the Marketing 4 Business podcast on Instagram HERE.Follow Digital Influence on Instagram HERE.Visit Digital Influence's website HERE.Book a complimentary marketing strategy session HERE.Connect with Scott Wilson on LinkedIn HERE.Connect with Kate James on LinkedIn HERE.Have Fun & Take Action
- 1 weeks ago1h 12m
Aaron Mauger: What 46 All Black Tests Taught Him About Leading a Team Under Pressure
He was coached by five men who went on to become Sirs. He says the difference at the top had almost nothing to do with rugby…In this Marketing 4 Business episode, Scott chats with Aaron Mauger, 46-Test All Black, professional coach, and founder of leadership consultancy Black 12, about what actually makes a team perform. Aaron and his wife Amy also own Dux Dine in Christchurch, so this is elite environments and the reality of a small business in the same conversation.Aaron shares insights and lessons you can put to work straight away, including:The eight words Anton Oliver said to a 20-year-old Aaron that took him off cloud nine and straight back to workWhy a team that lacks clarity produces plenty of action and almost no progress, and how to spot it in your own businessThe 3 Cs Aaron runs with exec teams (connection, clarity, consistency), and why clarity is the one that stops people in their tracksWhy the best thing a new leader can do in the first few months is change nothing, plus Scott's story of the CEO who did exactly that and walked out with 57 improvements his people already ownedThe four cornerstones behind that All Blacks era, and how "express yourself" gave players permission to failWhat "better men make better All Blacks" looked like in practice, and what it should change about how you invest in staffWhy one department celebrating while the rest of the business struggles is a sign of a dysfunctional team, not a high-performing oneThe two or three minutes Aaron spends sitting in the car so a hard day at work does not walk through his front doorWhat, so what, now what, and why most meetings quietly stop at the second questionWhy Aaron will tell a player he is not playing before he says anything else, and why softening the message helps nobodyHow Amy spotted Dux Dine for sale on her phone while they sat in the garden, and what Aaron learned about leading by getting out of the wayIf you are a business owner trying to get your people aligned, handle pressure without passing it down the line, or build an environment where good people stick around and grow, this episode is well worth your time.Download the Local Business AEO Playbook HERE. A free, step-by-step guide showing you how to position your business to be recommended by AI.If you found this episode valuable, please share it with another business owner who could benefit. Don't forget to follow Marketing 4 Business on your favourite podcast platform, and if you enjoyed the episode, we'd really appreciate a five-star review. Your support helps us reach more business owners with practical marketing insights.Connect with us:Follow the Marketing 4 Business podcast on Instagram HERE.Follow Digital Influence on Instagram HERE.Visit Digital Influence's website HERE.Book a complimentary marketing strategy session HERE.Connect with Scott Wilson on LinkedIn HERE.Connect with Aaron Mauger on LinkedIn HERE.Have Fun & Take Action
- 2 weeks ago1h 2m
How to Actually Use AI in Your Business, with an AI Engineer
Everyone is talking about AI. Almost nobody is telling business owners what to actually do on Monday morning.In this Marketing 4 Business episode, Scott chats with Blake Harkness, the AI engineer behind Harkness AI, about what AI can actually do inside a normal New Zealand business right now. Blake started a mechatronics degree, watched ChatGPT answer his entire coursework, and pivoted. He now works as a fractional AI partner, runs a 300-strong community called Young Kiwis in AI, and recently went to China on a national delegation to see where this is all heading. No hype, just the practical version:Blake explains how AI took his proposal process from 4 hours to 5 minutes, with a human review at the endWhy you must pay for your AI tools, and the confidential contract story from the States that shows what happens when you do notBlake's rule for connecting AI to your systems: read-only first, add permissions gradually, never go full ham from the startScott shares why he scrapped his AI chatbot and AI phone answering project and hired a call centre of real people insteadThe full breakdown of how a one-man fencing supplier automated Xero invoicing, repeat inquiries and calendar booking using Claude and a set of skillsWhat Blake saw in China: room-service robots riding elevators, AI triage in hospitals, and scan interpretation cut by 80%Why job roles shift rather than disappear, and the two risks Blake sees: using no AI at all, or using AI for everything and learning nothingBlake's 5 steps to get AI ready, including the testing mistake almost everyone makesScott's take on the AI bubble from an investor's seat, and why retail investors usually wear itThe intern who posted 5 Instagram Reels and had a job by day 5If you are a business owner drowning in admin, unsure which AI tools are worth paying for, or being pitched six-figure AI projects you suspect you do not need, this episode is well worth your time.Download the Local Business AEO Playbook HERE. A free, step-by-step guide showing you how to position your business to be recommended by AI.If you found this episode valuable, please share it with another business owner who could benefit. Don't forget to follow Marketing 4 Business on your favourite podcast platform, and if you enjoyed the episode, we'd really appreciate a five-star review. Your support helps us reach more business owners with practical marketing insights.Connect with us:Follow the Marketing 4 Business podcast on Instagram HERE.Follow Digital Influence on Instagram HERE.Visit Digital Influence's website HERE.Book a complimentary marketing strategy session HERE.Connect with Scott Wilson on LinkedIn HERE.Connect with Blake Harkness on LinkedIn HERE.Have Fun & Take Action
- 3 weeks ago1h 6m
21 Business Lessons I Have Been Saving Up For This Conversation
You are busy. Your business is not growing at the rate it should. Those two things are connected, and this episode explains how.Scott has been saving up business lessons. 21 of them, held back until the right person walked through the door. In this Marketing 4 Business episode, he sits down with Darren Pratley, business coach and speaker, who walks into companies across New Zealand and asks the question most owners avoid: what actually creates your success? No interview structure. Just 21 lessons, one at a time, with two people who do not always agree.Lessons you can put to work this week, including:Why Darren tells smaller businesses to focus on profit over cash flow, and the question the bank asks first that explains it.Scott's counter: cash keeps you alive during the year, profit is what you show at the end of it.The three week diary test that reveals whether your success is planned or just hoped for.Why Scott pulled AI off his phone lines and put a real call centre back on, and where Darren openly disagrees with him.The scoreboard question Darren asks in every business he walks into, and why it is not a financial question.57 touchpoints, and how one CEO used clarity alone as his competitive advantage.Why Scott tells clients to let go of marketing results for the first 12 months, and what happens at month 13.Darren's 10 calls a day rule, worth millions over his career, and the exact opening line he uses.If you are a business owner who keeps finishing the week exhausted with nothing moved forward, this is the hour that fixes it. Pick three lessons, act on them this week, and see what changes.Download the Local Business AEO Playbook HERE. A free, step-by-step guide showing you how to position your business to be recommended by AI.If you found this episode valuable, please share it with another business owner who could benefit. Don't forget to follow Marketing 4 Business on your favourite podcast platform, and if you enjoyed the episode, we'd really appreciate a five-star review. Your support helps us reach more business owners with practical marketing insights.Connect with us:Follow the Marketing 4 Business podcast on Instagram HERE.Follow Digital Influence on Instagram HERE.Visit Digital Influence's website HERE.Book a complimentary marketing strategy session HERE.Connect with Scott Wilson on LinkedIn HERE.Connect with Darren Pratley on LinkedIn HERE.Have Fun & Take Action
- Aug 19, 20261h 4m
Hiring Young Marketers: What They Cost, What They Want, and Why They Can Spot Your AI Ads
They set a goal of 100 members by the end of 2026. They hit 750 in six months.In this Marketing 4 Business episode, Scott chats with Milo Coldren and Rore Morgan, third-year students and co-founders of the UC Marketing Society, about what the next wave of marketers actually wants from an employer, what internships should really pay, and where AI is quietly damaging brands. If you employ young people, are thinking about an intern, or want an honest read on how AI is landing with the people who grew up with it, this one is worth your time.Including:What a marketing internship actually costsWhy a degree on its own no longer gets you hired, and why students need experience before they graduateWhy dropping the membership fee took the society from 70 members to 750, and what that says about barriers to entryWhat young marketers really want from a job, and why "the same day twice" is the fastest way to lose themWhy AI-generated imagery is turning customers off, and the one thing Rore says you never hand over to AIThe AI chatbot experiment that cost Digital Influence a deal, and why Scott went back to a call centreHow one agency owner cut website builds from 45 days to 3 hours with a single source of truth, and why he's now hiring more account managers, not fewerWhy Turnitin's AI checker doesn't work, and how universities are still figuring out the rulesThe free certifications students can do right now to stand outThe plastic toothpick cold call that taught Scott the biggest marketing lesson of his career: people buy what they want, not what you think they needHow Lucas got hired at 17 by saying yes to 10 hours a week, and how to de-risk yourself for an employerIf you are a business owner trying to hire young talent, work out whether an intern is worth it, or figure out where AI belongs in your marketing and where it absolutely doesn't, this episode is well worth your time.Download the Local Business AEO Playbook HERE. A free, step-by-step guide showing you how to position your business to be recommended by AI.If you found this episode valuable, please share it with another business owner who could benefit. Don't forget to follow Marketing 4 Business on your favourite podcast platform, and if you enjoyed the episode, we'd really appreciate a five-star review. Your support helps us reach more business owners with practical marketing insights.Connect with us:Follow the Marketing 4 Business podcast on Instagram HERE.Follow Digital Influence on Instagram HERE.Visit Digital Influence's website HERE.Book a complimentary marketing strategy session HERE.Connect with Scott on LinkedIn HERE.Connect with UC Marketing Society on LinkedIn HERE.Connect with Milo Coldren on LinkedIn HERE.Connect with Rore Morgan on LinkedIn HERE.Have Fun & Take Action
- Aug 12, 20261h 19m
Structure Follows Strategy: The Rule Most Business Owners Get Backwards
He turned up to a job interview in jandals and shorts, and walked out running events for 80,000 people. That was the start of 22 years offshore.In this Marketing 4 Business episode, Scott chats with Darren Sandford, CEO of Accessman, about strategy, brand and customer experience learned the hard way across South Africa, Botswana, Dubai and New Zealand. Hilti, Bobcat, Versatile, Caterpillar, and now one of New Zealand's largest access equipment hire businesses. This is a proper strategy episode with the scar tissue included. Darren shares:Why structure follows strategy, and why a manager who changes the org chart without touching the strategy is being lazyThe reason 85% of strategies fail, and why it is almost never the strategy itselfWhy the best strategies come from the bottom up, not handed down from the corner office like a gift from the godsHow to break your customer journey into touch points (Accessman found 58), and the four questions that tell you which ones to fix firstWhy Accessman hires the exact same gear as its competitors, and where the white space actually sitsThe six ways to differentiate, why you can only pick one, and what it costs you to hold the lineWhy a rebrand has to be sold internally first, from the Gough Cat to Terra Cat change Darren ledThe $10 million equipment call he made against his own manager's advice, and the rule he took from it: you can tolerate failure, you cannot tolerate poor performanceWhy he calls BS on "I know in the first five minutes if they are right for the job," and the structured process his leadership team uses insteadWhat top sales performers do that low performers say they have not got time forIf you are a business owner trying to build a strategy your team will actually implement, find room to compete when your product looks the same as everyone else's, or work out where you genuinely differentiate, this episode is well worth your time.Download the Local Business AEO Playbook HERE. A free, step-by-step guide showing you how to position your business to be recommended by AI.If you found this episode valuable, please share it with another business owner who could benefit. Don't forget to follow Marketing 4 Business on your favourite podcast platform, and if you enjoyed the episode, we'd really appreciate a five-star review. Your support helps us reach more business owners with practical marketing insights.Connect with us:Follow the Marketing 4 Business podcast on Instagram HERE.Follow Digital Influence on Instagram HERE.Visit Digital Influence's website HERE.Book a complimentary marketing strategy session HERE.Connect with Scott on LinkedIn HERE.Connect with Darren Sandford on LinkedIn HERE.Have Fun & Take Action
- Aug 5, 20261h 13m
Mentors Leave Clues: A Masterclass in Sales, Culture, and Building Businesses
She was made redundant while on maternity leave, worked three jobs to keep the house, and now runs two businesses at once…In this Marketing 4 Business episode, Scott chats with Andrea Cockburn, director at Thermoglaz and one of the newest agents at Harcourts Gold Papanui, about 40 years in sales, buying and selling businesses, and what she is only now learning about leading a team. Andrea grew up in a state house, became a Canterbury coxswain at nine, and has lived in roughly 50 houses and renovated 15. She shares the tools and the mistakes, including:Why over-giving as an employer ends in disappointment, and the line from her own management team that reset it: not everyone is your family or your childThe glass ceiling mistake Andrea owns up to, wanting every team member to push through theirs without ever asking if they wanted toStop, start, recreate: the three-part review her directors and GM run on the business, and on their own weak spotsThe tank: how her management team scores mindset, health, family and personal life out of 10, out loud, twice a month, and the only question they ask afterwardsWhat happened when they swapped the junk food pantry for fruit and water, kept the chocolate biscuits and the beer, and one staff member decided to get a haircutWhy buying a business with great long-serving staff means keeping their traditions first, and what it cost the new owners of her IT company when they did notNought to around 500 clients in six months selling makeup at parties, and why she still says growing fast can quietly over-commit youTurning $82,700 into $182,100 in 18 months on her first house at 20, on a renovation budget of roughly $2,000Why after 40 years she calls herself a communicator rather than a salesperson, and why she has never counted commission as incomeHer two-word answer on what makes a good student of a mentorScott's own take on culture: small hinges swing big doors, plus the daily stand-up and "teach me" ritual he runs at Digital InfluenceIf you are a business owner who tends to give more than you get back, or you are trying to build a team strong enough that you can step out and do something new, this episode is well worth your time.Download the Local Business AEO Playbook HERE. A free, step-by-step guide showing you how to position your business to be recommended by AI.If you found this episode valuable, please share it with another business owner who could benefit. Don't forget to follow Marketing 4 Business on your favourite podcast platform, and if you enjoyed the episode, we'd really appreciate a five-star review. Your support helps us reach more business owners with practical marketing insights.Connect with us:Follow the Marketing 4 Business podcast on Instagram HERE.Follow Digital Influence on Instagram HERE.Visit Digital Influence's website HERE.Book a complimentary marketing strategy session HERE.Connect with Scott on LinkedIn HERE.Connect with Andrea Cockburn on LinkedIn HERE.Have Fun & Take Action
- Jul 29, 20261h 4m
Purpose Over Profit: The Lawyer Helping Kiwi Businesses Find Their Why
He left a career doing billion-dollar corporate deals in London, Tokyo and Sydney to ask small business owners one simple question: what's your purpose?In this Marketing 4 Business episode, Scott chats with Steve Moe, corporate lawyer at Perry Field Lawyers and host of the Seeds podcast (closing in on 500 episodes), about why purpose can't just live in a slogan, it needs to live in your legal documents. From reinventing his career after a decade overseas to helping charities and founders raise funding, Steve shares insights grounded in real client work. He covers:Why your business purpose needs to be written into your legal documents, not just your marketingThe 3-bullet-point test Steve gives every founder to nail their real "why"Why loans from family and friends are often the riskiest way to fund a startupThe New Zealand "number 8 wire" mindset that quietly caps how far a business can growWhy nature could legally hold shares in a company, and how NZ law already makes this possibleThe "gracious no" habit that protects your time without burning bridgesWhy "work-life balance" is the wrong goal, and what to aim for insteadThe regret-test question Steve uses before every big life decisionIf you're a business owner trying to get clear on your purpose, build a team that isn't limited by you, or figure out how to fund your next stage of growth, this episode is well worth your time.Download the Local Business AEO Playbook HERE. A free, step-by-step guide showing you how to position your business to be recommended by AI.If you found this episode valuable, please share it with another business owner who could benefit. Don't forget to follow Marketing 4 Business on your favourite podcast platform, and if you enjoyed the episode, we'd really appreciate a five-star review. Your support helps us reach more business owners with practical marketing insights.Connect with us:Follow the Marketing 4 Business podcast on Instagram HERE.Follow Digital Influence on Instagram HERE.Visit Digital Influence's website HERE.Book a complimentary marketing strategy session HERE.Connect with Scott on LinkedIn HERE.Connect with Steve Moe on LinkedIn HERE.Purchase Steve Moe's books HERE.Have Fun & Take Action
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