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- Today44 min
Katherine Tuominen And Darren Discuss Navigating Marketing Compliance And Regulation
Katherine Tuominen joins Darren to discuss the often misunderstood landscape of marketing compliance and the stark realities of navigating regulation across different channels and regions. They explore where the compliance line actually sits, revealing that it is frequently drawn by platforms, retailers, and professional bodies rather than just the regulator, and examine the challenges of taking the same product into two different markets. A supplement claim that clears US rules under DSHEA often meets a very different test under the TGA, explaining why a single set of global assets rarely survives the crossing. The conversation delves into the structural flaws of the agency pitch process, which frequently selects for winning ideas that a regulated client cannot legally use, leaving clients to discover the reality only after the contract is signed. Katherine explains the cost of the "safe version" of copy and why poorly converting, legal-proofed text is usually a briefing failure—where constraints arrive at the approval stage instead of the brief—rather than a compliance tax. They also discuss the true value of a properly written testimonial under FTC and therapeutic goods advertising rules, the liability brands carry for claims improvised by influencers, and the high cost of assuming a client's legal team has checked the work. Finally, they address the strategic impact of vertical exclusivity when an agency will only hold a single brand in a category, the speed problem of telehealth scaling faster than its own regulation, and the emerging risks of the AI layer. With answer engines repeating a brand's most frequently stated claims rather than its best-evidenced ones, Katherine highlights how this creates live risks for regulated categories and builds the business case for funding slower, heavily evidenced claims. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
- 1 weeks ago43 min
Becky Lawlor And Darren Discuss How Original Research Builds B2B Trust In An AI Era
Becky Lawlor, founder of Redpoint Insights, joins Darren to discuss how B2B technology companies can use original research to build authority, earn buyer trust, and generate pipeline. With over 15 years of experience in B2B tech marketing, Becky shares how she has partnered with brands like JumpCloud, CallRail, and Neo4j to transform first-party data into highly effective credibility assets. Her research programmes have successfully doubled thought-leadership engagement, influenced nearly seven figures in opportunity ARR, and generated two to three times stronger lead performance. They explore why original research is becoming the number one trust signal in the B2B sector today. As AI and LLM-powered evaluation change how buyers research vendors, the conversation highlights how brands can stand out by providing credible insights and strong points of view rather than relying on generic AI-generated content. Becky explains why "good content" is no longer enough and how robust research gives buyers the hard proof they need to circulate internally among complex buying committees. Finally, Becky unpacks her framework for turning survey data into authority-building stories. She outlines the four signals that actually build authority, details why most thought leadership fails to survive internal scrutiny, and reveals how content truly converts in the middle of the buying journey rather than at the final demo. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
- 4 weeks ago50 min
Paul Roebuck And Darren Discuss How AI Is Changing Client-Agency Decision Making and Learning
With more than two decades of experience managing some of the biggest brands at some of the world’s most high-profile agencies, Paul Roebuck, joins Darren to explore how people actually make decisions together inside organisations and across client-agency relationships. As he prepares to return to Asia Pacific, where he began his career, Paul is establishing an independent advisory practice focused on helping organisations turn AI into meaningful transformation and lasting competitive advantage. Paul shares his perspective on understanding the human elements of decision-making - who people trust, whose approval matters, and what makes them hesitate - and how these factors determine whether greater intelligence translates into better work. He draws on his extensive global experience with brands like Ford and Colgate-Palmolive to illustrate how shared ambitions are translated into action across functions and markets. The conversation delves into the intersection of human judgment and artificial intelligence. They discuss whether AI might make individual functions more effective while leaving the overall customer experience fragmented, and where human accountability must remain as machines take on more tasks. Finally, they examine the commercial realities of this evolution. Using media-budget allocation as a concrete example, Darren and Paul discuss how to ensure that scopes and performance measures reward better decisions and accumulated learning. They also tackle the critical industry question of how future talent will develop judgment and experience when AI automates the foundational tasks that traditionally built those skills. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
- Sep 29, 202642 min
Arum Nixon And Darren Discuss The Triple Win Of Decarbonising Media And Advertising
Arum Nixon, the Australian Chapter lead of Ad Net Zero, joins Darren to discuss the critical findings from their latest white paper, Triple Win for Marketers. As climate change evolves from a corporate social responsibility issue into a board-level commercial risk, mandatory reporting frameworks are bringing unprecedented scrutiny to organisations' Scope 3 value chain emissions. Arum highlights the often-overlooked environmental impact of advertising, revealing that marketing activities can account for more than 5% of an organisation’s upstream Scope 3 emissions - and significantly more in service-led sectors. The conversation delves into the common trap of relying on "spend-based" carbon estimates, which incorrectly treat cost as a proxy for carbon and leave marketers with no pathway to reduce their footprint other than cutting their budgets. Instead, Arum advocates for the adoption of granular, "activity-based" data. He explains how this approach delivers a triple benefit for marketers: it provides a clear pathway to reduce actual carbon emissions, it lowers the reported footprint through greater accuracy, and it refines campaign performance by cutting supply chain waste. In fact, research shows that lower-carbon media campaigns often drive better commercial results, including lower acquisition costs and higher click-through rates. The episode also covers practical steps for implementation, including how the Global Media Sustainability Framework (GMSF) offers a standardised method to calculate media emissions, and features real-world examples of brands successfully optimising their media buys for both the planet and their performance. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
- Sep 15, 202653 min
Christian Jacobsen, Damien Eley And Darren Discuss Why Participation Trumps Persuasion In An AI World
Christian Jacobsen, Founder and Managing Partner, and Damien Eley, Founder and Chief Creative Officer of agency The Many, join Darren to discuss why modern marketing needs an operating philosophy built around how culture actually works, rather than how agencies organise themselves. The traditional categories of creative, media, social, and experiential were built for legacy campaign models, but modern audiences experience brands as one fluid ecosystem. As artificial intelligence commoditises persuasion and accelerates execution, the real differentiator for brands is shifting toward human participation, community, and co-creation. The conversation explores why persuasion is becoming automated, how live and experiential activations provide proof of humanity in a synthetic world, and why the agency of the future must operate like a flywheel rather than a leaky funnel. They also discuss why exceptional creative judgment and taste matter more than ever when technology makes "average" dramatically easier to achieve. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
- Sep 1, 202648 min
Chelsea Beech And Darren Discuss How Not-For-Profits Can Solve Their Marketing Clarity Problem
Chelsea Beech, Founder of the Beech agency, joins Darren to discuss the strategic marketing challenges and growth opportunities facing Not-for-Profits and charities today. While cost-of-living pressures are frequently blamed for declining donations, Chelsea explains why most charities don't have an effort problem - they have a clarity problem. They explore how NFPs can define their "Zone of Unique Value" to stand out in a noisy, click-bait-driven digital landscape, navigate rising competition, and manage an aging supporter base. The conversation also delves into the dangers of internal team silos, determining who the true hero of the narrative is (the charity, the beneficiaries, or the donors), and the four core questions every NFP marketing message must answer. A resilient, purpose-driven brand needs to be Clear, Compelling, Consistent, and Confident. For charity leaders, fundraisers, and marketers looking to break through the noise, align their teams, and build enduring donor engagement, this is an essential conversation to eavesdrop on. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
- Aug 18, 202648 min
Vanessa Liell And Darren Discuss How Marketing And Corporate Comms Must Collaborate In A Digital Age
Vanessa Liell. Partner at boutique corporate advisory, Orizontas, discusses why bridging this divide between marketing and corporate communications is a critical leadership issue. Historically, marketing and corporate affairs were separated for sensible reasons. Marketing focused on reach and commercial outcomes, while corporate affairs managed risk, reputation, and stakeholder relationships. But today, with sustainability, regulation, politics, and brand all colliding in real-time, that separation is costing organisations real outcomes. In a world where campaigns can trigger regulatory scrutiny overnight and reputation is shaped at the speed marketing operates, the question isn’t why these functions don’t work together. It’s whether organisations, agencies, and leaders can still afford not to. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf. Vanessa Liell. Partner at boutique corporate advisory, Orizontas, discusses why bridging this divide between marketing and corporate communications is a critical leadership issue. Historically, marketing and corporate affairs were separated for sensible reasons. Marketing focused on reach and commercial outcomes, while corporate affairs managed risk, reputation, and stakeholder relationships. But today, with sustainability, regulation, politics, and brand all colliding in real-time, that separation is costing organisations real outcomes. In a world where campaigns can trigger regulatory scrutiny overnight and reputation is shaped at the speed marketing operates, the question isn’t why these functions don’t work together. It’s whether organisations, agencies, and leaders can still afford not to. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
- Aug 5, 202651 min
Joe Carter And Darren Talk About Bringing Strategy Back Into Agency Pitches
Joe Carter, Strategic Agency Lead at brand tracking company Tracksuit, discusses how real-time brand tracking can revolutionize marketing strategies, improve agency-client collaboration, and drive long-term business growth. We often discuss how the agency pitch process is, in many ways, where strategy goes to die. Too often, the process is reduced to a "beauty parade" or a race to the bottom on price, leaving little room for the deep, evidence-based strategic thinking that actually drives business growth. But what if the pitch could be the place where strategy is actually born? By integrating real-time, longitudinal brand tracking into the process, we can move away from subjective debates and toward a shared understanding of market reality. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934 Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/ For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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