Making Data Simple

Why Physical Stores Aren't Dying — with Ron Johnson, Creator of the Apple Store and Author of Shop Different

September 2, 2026·46 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

Send us Fan Mail We dive into the surprising wisdom of retail with Ron Johnson — creator of the original Apple Store, founder of Enjoy Technology, and author of Shop Different. Johnson challenges conventional thinking about the future of physical spaces, arguing that the human element — and the power of design — will always be crucial. AND, "The most important person is in front of you," a life lesson. 02:31 Ron Johnson! 05:42 The Apple Store 08:39 MSFT vs Apple 10:39 The Desig...

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