Living Planet

Summer reads – How we made the wilderness w/Cal Flyn

July 31, 2026·30 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

What if the places we think of as empty and unmarred are anything but? What if wilderness is as much an idea as a place? A conversation with Cal Flyn, who, in her new book, travels to some of the world's most remote, awe-inspiring places to trace the changing meaning of wilderness, and to explore how one of conservation's most cherished ideals has come at a human cost.

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