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by Kirby Atwell
We believe that a high quality rental property is the best investment a person can make. This podcast equips listeners to build a rental portfolio of their own. Each week host, Kirby Atwell, interviews someone who is living off rentals and identifies best practices, advice, and potential investing pitfalls to avoid.
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- 5 days ago44 min
#351 - Insuring Your Rentals the Right Way Before You Ever Need to File a Claim - Matt Nance
Don't learn about insurance the hard way… after you need it! Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who has spent 20 years helping property owners make sure they're actually covered when something goes wrong. Matt Nance has worked in insurance since 2006, helping homeowners and real estate investors understand what their policies do and don't cover. He's also an investor himself, so he knows what's at stake when a property takes a hit. Listen as Matt shares why the wrong policy could leave you with no coverage during a renovation and how to make sure your insurance actually allows short-term rentals. He also explains an affordable way to protect your other assets if someone gets hurt on your property, and what to do if a claim payout seems too low. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Matt Nance and his background [03:19] How Matt got started in the insurance industry [05:04] Understanding an insurance policy as a contract [07:53] Insurance should be part of your investment team [09:27] Understanding the specific risks in each market [10:41] The differences between rental property and vacant property insurance [13:00] When a property may need commercial insurance [13:41] Making sure your insurance policy covers short-term rentals [15:21] Written confirmation of coverage matters [16:51] Choosing the right level of insurance coverage [20:10] Liability risks can vary from state to state [22:25] Insuring properties owned by an LLC [24:13] Understanding the risks of concentrating properties in one market [26:42] Filing an insurance claim [28:19] Flood damage is not typically covered by standard homeowners insurance [32:11] Buying commercial condos for both business use and long-term equity [38:38] Insuring yourself from a bad business partnership [41:54] Finding the right insurance specialist for your state and property needs [43:49] Outro Guest Links: Website: shepherdins.com/formerly-responsive LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancematthew/ Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/ Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
- 1 weeks ago52 min
#350 - Buying Houses With $100 Down Using Creative Financing - Jenn & Joe Delle Fave
Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is a husband-and-wife team who turned a "no" from the bank into a whole new way to invest. Joe and Jen Delle Fave are a husband and wife real estate investing team and the founders of Creative Finance Playbook. Joe worked at a car dealership and Jen was a teacher when the bank cut them off after they hit the 10 mortgage limit. Today they teach investors how to buy real estate without banks, big down payments, or perfect credit. Listen as they share how they bought their first seller-financed house for $100 down, how they took over a seller's 3.25% mortgage, and how a simple post in local Facebook groups brings sellers straight to them. They also explain why listening to a seller's story matters more than a lowball offer, how their rent-to-own tenants handle the repairs, and what it took to build this business together as a married couple. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Jenn and Joe Delle Fave and their background [01:48] What creative financing means [03:30] How they bought a property with just $100 down [04:56] Why the banks stopped lending after 10 mortgages [06:35] Buying an $80,000 house [10:08] Finding motivated sellers [13:56] Finding another deal through a local Facebook group [16:23] Addressing seller's concerns about qualifying for another mortgage [19:20] Learning from experienced investors and the right attorney [21:48] Being open-minded while still doing your due diligence [22:47] Setting up your personal Facebook profile to connect with sellers [24:19] Joining local Facebook groups to find potential deals [28:29] About their property at Marco Island, Florida [33:57] Keeping rental prices reasonable to encourage tenants to stay [37:19] Letting tenants make improvements and turn a rental into their home [39:41] Building a team to manage the growing business [43:22] Pros and cons of building a real estate business with your spouse [50:16] Connect with Jenn and Joe Delle Fave [52:21] Outro Guest Links: Website: https://creativefinanceplaybook.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/CREATIVEFINANCEPLAYBOOK/ Resources: creativefinanceplaybook.com/pod-training-livingoffrentals Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/ Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
- 2 weeks ago32 min
#349 - How to Get Double the Income from a Property by Renting Rooms Individually - Ryan Chaw
Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who found a profitable niche right next to college campuses. Ryan Chaw is a real estate investor who specializes in student housing and renting by the room. He started buying properties on the side while working full time as a pharmacist, inspired by the rentals his grandfather used to build generational wealth for their family. Today he helps busy professionals buy their first cash-flowing student rental. Listen as he shares the $30,000 lesson from his first property and how one duplex rented to 12 college baseball players brings in $7,360 a month. He also explains how he picks the right houses near campus and screens tenants so shared homes run smoothly. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Ryan Chaw and his real estate journey [02:42] Getting into real estate investing as a young pharmacist [04:39] Ryan's first rental property and the lessons he learned [05:39] Finding better tenants by targeting graduate students [06:44] Losing over $30,000 on his first property [09:55] How Ryan worked out a deal with his dad after the unexpected repairs [10:40] The three things you need to get right with student housing [11:47] B.I.G. method for finding the right property [13:49] Structuring student leases [15:54] The ideal bathroom-to-tenant ratio [17:13] Converting existing space into additional bedrooms [18:51] Managing neighbors and student housing complaints [20:15] The three-strike policy for head tenants [24:05] Ryan's cash flow targets and the 2% rule [25:42] The PRIME method for finding high-quality tenants [29:56] Ryan's real estate investing community works [31:53] Outro Guest Links: Website: https://www.newbierealestateinvesting.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ryanchaw1 Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/ Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
- 3 weeks ago42 min
#348 - Going From 13 Deployments to Never Missing a Family Dinner Through Real Estate - Keith Gillispie
Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who went from missing his kids' childhood overseas as an active-duty Marine to building a real estate empire that lets him be home with his family every day. Keith Gillispie is a Marine Corps veteran and the founder of REI Automated. He served eight years on active duty, deploying overseas 13 times, before leaving in 2020 to build his business full time. He is a serial entrepreneur who has invested in 34 states and raised over $10 million in private capital. Listen as he shares the moments that made him walk away from a Marine career, how he built his business in one-hour lunch breaks while still serving, and how he scaled from a few local deals to operating in markets across the country. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Keith Gillispie and his real estate background [02:08] How Keith first became interested in real estate while serving in the Marines [04:42] Coming home to children who didn't recognize him [06:19] Real estate became Keith's vehicle out [08:08] Why being a father became more important than being a good Marine [09:36] The biggest lessons Keith took from the Marines [14:20] Buying and flipping his first house in Stafford, Virginia [18:36] Growing from three deals to nine deals while keeping the same marketing budget [19:41] Finding the "Goldilocks zone" for real estate investing [22:19] Building six software companies under REI Automated [23:12] Focusing primarily on single-family properties [26:58] Why finding a proactive property manager can be difficult [28:16] The three pillars of deal execution [28:26] Pillar one: education [30:05] Pillar two: systems/software [33:44] Pillar three: coaching [37:51] How much of real estate investing can actually be automated [40:45] Learn more about REI Automated [41:27] Connect with Keith Gillispie [42:03] Outro Guest Links: Website: https://www.reiautomated.io/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keithg_rei/ Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/ Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
- Oct 7, 202650 min
#347 - How to Find Off-Market Real Estate Deals - Bryan Driscoll
Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is Bryan Driscoll, owner of Motivated Leads, a company that helps real estate investors connect with motivated off-market sellers through various marketing strategies. Bryan shares his own experience as a real estate investor, from buying his first $33,000 property to building a rental portfolio. Listen as Bryan explains how to find motivated sellers, when to start paying for leads, why having multiple ways to help sellers matters, and how staying focused can simplify the real estate investing process. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Bryan Driscoll and his background [02:37] Transition from freelancing on Upwork to starting Motivated Leads [03:45] Learning marketing and building a general agency [04:59] Buying his first $33,000 investment property [06:49] How Motivated Leads influenced Bryan's real estate investing [08:29] The idea behind "gold-driven depression" [10:02] Planting seeds for his future self through real estate [12:24] Why Bryan focuses on one zip code [13:48] How to find your first off-market deal [18:23] Using bandit signs to find highly targeted leads [19:23] Using a CRM to track leads and follow up [21:58] Two ways to market on Facebook [23:01] The special housing category on Facebook explained [25:35] Generating leads nationally and passing them to local investors [27:22] Real estate leads are still a numbers game [27:56] Dispositions and novations explained [29:58] Understanding lead volume and the cost of leads [32:30] Common mistakes new investors make with off-market marketing [34:19] Building the process around yourself before building a team [36:06] Balancing a multi-million dollar business, real estate, family, and hobbies [38:53] The story behind the Goodness Game [45:08] Realizing that small things can make a difference [47:22] Using a scorecard to measure effort, impact, and how you feel afterward [49:49] Outro Guest Links: Motivated Leads Website: motivatedleads.com The Goodness Game: goodnessgame.com Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/ Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
- Sep 30, 202640 min
#346 - Quadruple Your Capacity - How to Hire a Virtual Team Member For Your Airbnb Business - Maria Laoang
Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is Maria Laoang, our Airbnb Manager who's been overseeing the day-to-day operations for my short-term rental business, Dune Dwellings, for the past two years. Maria is a virtual assistant (VA) from the Philippines who manages our team of 3 full-time customer service team members. Together, they run the day-to-day operations of our Airbnb business. Listen as she shares how her background in customer service led her to Airbnb management, her responsibilities, and what it means to hire for ownership rather than tasks. She also gets into what onboarding and training VAs look like in practice, how something as simple as a daily Slack recap can keep a whole team on the same page, and just how many moving pieces a short-term rental operation actually juggles, from guest services and cleaning to maintenance, vendors, systems, processes, and more. If you're looking to scale up your Airbnb operations with a virtual team, this one's for you! Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Maria Laoang and her role as virtual rental manager [04:21] Maria's background in customer service and training [07:30] Responsibilities as a virtual short-term rental manager [08:18] Improving systems, SOPs and processes [10:28] The difference between a team member and a manager [13:28] How Maria found the job opportunity [15:15] Why clearly defining the role matters when hiring [19:17] The right time to hire a virtual team member [21:19] Language and communication in the Philippines [26:41] Building the onboarding and training process [31:37] Using Slack as the day-to-day communication hub [34:16] Advice for rental property owners thinking about hiring virtually [35:25] Being ready to delegate and build systems [37:54] Rewarding your team as owners [39:52] Outro Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/ Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
- Sep 23, 202645 min
#345 - How to Organize a Real Estate Portfolio and All Your Tools Into One System - Dustin Heiner
Joining us in this episode of Living Off Rentals is Dustin Heiner, a real estate investor behind several podcasts, including Master Passive Income, and the man behind Income Builder - a new tool that lets investors manage all their real estate tools in one place. Dustin started investing in long-term rentals in 2006 after a wake-up call at his government job. Since then, he has built systems around his portfolio and created Income Builder, a business system designed to help investors analyze properties, manage their portfolio, organize documents, and track their progress toward financial freedom. Listen as he explains why investors need to think like business owners, how to keep everything in one place, and how AI can help investors make better decisions and build systems. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Dustin Heiner and his real estate background [03:42] Starting with long-term rentals in 2006 [04:38] Don't be an investor, be an income builder and business owner [05:29] Why Dustin focuses on systems and processes [07:26] The story behind Income Builder [09:46] Investors need a complete business system [11:03] Replacing multiple tools with one system [15:38] Investors should organize everything from the beginning [17:26] Getting started with Income Builder for free [20:33] Tracking your financial freedom goal [23:28] Building an AI investor coach [24:57] How AI could impact real estate investing [28:18] Nothing can replace mentors and community for real estate investors [31:07] Learning from other people's mistakes [32:44] Appreciation is icing on the cake [37:30] The importance of community and surrounding yourself with investors [43:04] 50% off the first month of Income Builder [44:57] Outro Guest Links: Website: https://incomebuilder.io/ Get 50% off the first month of Income Builder. Visit https://livingoffrentals.com/incomebuilder and use the promo code KIRBY. Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/ Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
- Sep 16, 20261h 5m
#344 - Retiring From Firefighting Through Short-Term Rentals in Hawaii - Mike & Caroline Neubauer
In this episode of Living Off Rentals, Mike and Caroline Neubauer of the Our Family Invests podcast join us to share how they built financial freedom through real estate investing and short-term rentals in Maui. Starting with an ADU on their primary home, they eventually built a short-term rental business that allowed Mike to leave the fire department. Along the way, they learned some hard lessons about financing, renovations, cash flow, and building systems. Listen as Mike and Caroline share how they got started, the challenges they faced with their first short-term rental, the impacts of COVID and the Maui fire, and how having a clear family goal helped them keep moving forward. Enjoy the show! Key Takeaways: [00:00] Introducing Mike and Caroline Neubauer [03:18] Building financial freedom in a really expensive market [07:52] Building an ADU on their primary residence [13:58] From being a firefighter to discovering short-term rentals in Maui [23:00] The different path to financial freedom [24:20] The lessons learned from landlording short-term rentals [26:01] Finding and purchasing their first short-term rental [29:30] How COVID affected their real estate operations [31:09] Pivoting their short-term rentals during COVID [33:36] Investing remotely and funding new properties [40:44] Deciding when to leave the fire department [46:18] How their real estate goals have changed [48:18] Moving toward more passive investments [53:16] Choosing properties based on location and lifestyle [55:51] Mike's experience with the Maui fires [01:00:59] The impact of the Lahaina fire [01:03:06] Mike and Caroline's advice for those starting in real estate investing [01:04:20] Connect with Mike and Caroline Neubauer [01:05:13] Outro Guest Links: Website: https://ourfamilyinvests.com/ Show Links: Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals Living Off Rentals YouTube Podcast Channel - youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentalsPodcast Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/ Living Off Rentals Instagram – instagram.com/livingoffrentals Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals Want to start investing in short-term rentals? Book a call to see if my STR Blueprint program is a good fit for you: livingoffrentals.com/call
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