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by Avraham Mor & Lisa Reed
Our unflinching conversations uncover the nuances and complexities that shape the craft of lighting design. Explore the pivotal ‘whys’ behind a lighting designer’s choices and find honest answers to your most challenging lighting questions, because Lighting Matters.
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Of 100 award-winning architecture projects, how many listed a lighting designer in the credits? The answer should embarrass the entire industry.Jen Park, principal at Chicago's Park Fowler, joins hosts Avi Mor of Morlights and Lisa Reed of Reed Burkett Lighting Design to examine what architects genuinely understand about lighting—and where the gaps are. Park describes lighting as the critical thread in architectural composition: invisible when right, conspicuous when wrong. Who's actually making that argument to developers? The discussion covers the ROI case for lighting design, color temperature consistency across building types, and one startling data point—of 100 recent award-winning projects across AIA and Dezeen, not one credited a lighting designer in its submission. In This Episode: Park Fowler's founding and accelerated firm transition Lighting as a critical compositional layer in architecture Architecture school's gap in electric lighting education Museum spaces as field labs for reading light The ROI argument for lighting designers on developer projects Color temperature consistency and the build-to-sell challenge Material samples, color accuracy, and Neocon vignettes The four visual professionals of the built environment Lighting designers uncredited in architectural award submissions Architect as conductor: the full-team design model Favorite illuminated spaces: The Rookery Chicago, Jumex Museum in Mexico City Would you be interested in sponsoring our podcast? Reach out to us. Share your thoughts, comments, like and subscribe to hear all of our informative upcoming episodes! About the show: Lighting Matters is hosted by Lisa Reed and Avi Mor. In each episode, we’ll dig deep into the meticulous process of creating lighting design for architecture, showcasing industry leaders who balance artistic creativity with technical precision, and listen as they share their successes and challenges in architectural lighting design. Resources:Material Bank (material sample sourcing tool) materialbank.com AIA Chicago (business forums, awards, and board service) aiachicago.org Dezeen (awards discussion) dezeen.com IALD — iald.org NeoCon (trade show - upcoming lighting vignettes) neocon.com Lighting Matters Podcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lighting-matters-podcast/Lighting Matters Podcast YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbLkEKnB8XgSXoeDY0T8t3w Lisa Reed https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-j-reed-b198154/ Reed Burkett Lighting Design http://www.rbldi.com Avraham Mor https://www.linkedin.com/in/avrahammor/ Morlights https://www.morlights.com/
Why does the profession that shapes how humans experience every built space they occupy still have no regulatory recognition — anywhere in the world?Dawn Brown, CLD, Design IALD, Lighting Designer at Ontario Aesthetic Lighting Design (OALD), joins Avi and Lisa for a direct look at the future of the profession. The conversation covers the persistent divide between interior designers and lighting designers, Dawn's proposal to regulate lighting design in Ontario, and the science case for circadian and wellness lighting. "If we know there's something we can do to prevent harm, why not just do it?" Engineering addresses the conscious mind. Lighting design influences the subconscious. That distinction, Dawn argues, is why professional recognition is long overdue. In This Episode: Dawn Brown's path from architecture to lighting design Interior designers and the lighting design disconnect Engineering serves the conscious mind, design serves the subconscious Proposing lighting design regulation to Ontario's Parliament IES recommended practices, professional liability, and malpractice Why CLDs must lead wellness and circadian design Circadian lighting adoption: barriers and the next generation Reaching interior designers and elevating the profession The boardroom moment that made Dawn a lighting designer Would you be interested in sponsoring our podcast? Reach out to us. Share your thoughts, comments, like and subscribe to hear all of our informative upcoming episodes! About the show: Lighting Matters is hosted by Lisa Reed and Avi Mor. In each episode, we’ll dig deep into the meticulous process of creating lighting design for architecture, showcasing industry leaders who balance artistic creativity with technical precision, and listen as they share their successes and challenges in architectural lighting design. Resources:Dawn Brown LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawn-brown-cld-design-iald-03404aa9/Lighting Matters Podcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lighting-matters-podcast/Lighting Matters Podcast YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbLkEKnB8XgSXoeDY0T8t3w Lisa Reed https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-j-reed-b198154/ Reed Burkett Lighting Design http://www.rbldi.com Avraham Mor https://www.linkedin.com/in/avrahammor/ Morlights https://www.morlights.com/
Lighting's go-to-market model is one of the most complex in any product category. Does anyone outside the industry actually understand that—and does it matter if they don't?Amy Bonder came to Luminii from the Fortune 500—Black & Decker, Advance Auto Parts, Bridgestone—and found that nothing prepares you for lighting's go-to-market complexity. In this episode, hosts Avi Mor (Morlights) and Lisa Reed (Reed Burkett Lighting Design) dig into what's broken. One agent partner touched a single project 178 times. The conversation moves through data fragmentation, spec integrity, and a harder question: why does this industry still fail to develop its own leaders? "Better is better," Amy says. Take the nuggets and move. In This Episode: Amy Bonder's path from Fortune 500 to the lighting industry Why lighting's go-to-market model is unlike anything else The real cost of a fragmented specification process Solving the data and software gap across the value chain Spec integrity and the lighting designer's role in reducing friction Personal branding and leadership development for design firms Feedback as a leadership tool: building stronger teams The business fundamentals design school never teaches Interns, AI, and developing the next generation Would you be interested in sponsoring our podcast? Reach out to us. Share your thoughts, comments, like and subscribe to hear all of our informative upcoming episodes! About the show: Lighting Matters is hosted by Lisa Reed and Avi Mor. In each episode, we’ll dig deep into the meticulous process of creating lighting design for architecture, showcasing industry leaders who balance artistic creativity with technical precision, and listen as they share their successes and challenges in architectural lighting design. Resources:Amy Bonder LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-bonder-3b23b47/ Lighting Matters Podcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lighting-matters-podcast/Lighting Matters Podcast YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbLkEKnB8XgSXoeDY0T8t3w Lisa Reed https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-j-reed-b198154/ Reed Burkett Lighting Design http://www.rbldi.com Avraham Mor https://www.linkedin.com/in/avrahammor/ Morlights https://www.morlights.com/
What if the fastest way to bring a project in under budget was just to pay people on time?Ron Unterreiner—retired design-build executive, founder of the People networking initiative and WBEDC, and advisor to the Rise CDFI—joins hosts Avi Mor of Morlights and Lisa Reed of Reed Burkett Lighting Design for a direct conversation about what's quietly breaking the AEC payment chain. The discussion is anchored in three realities: 30-day payment terms aren't prompt, they're a slow disaster for small firms; minority and women-owned contractors are turning to predatory lenders at 82% interest to bridge the gap; and lighting design is a specification decision, not an optional add-on. "There is no such thing as cash flow anymore," Ron says flatly. "It does not flow." So who has the power to change it—and why aren't they? In This Episode: Ron Unterreiner on 32 years in design-build and minority contractor equity work How design and construction disciplines communicate—and where lighting fits in Who actually controls which fixtures end up on a job site The 90-day payment gap bankrupting AEC's smallest firms Why large firms absorb slow payment while small firms can't survive it What prompt payment actually looks like: lessons from HBE Corporation Industry organizations, antitrust fears, and stalled collective action The financial case owners aren't hearing: prompt payment costs less Prioritizing clients who pay: a survival strategy for small design firms Ron's defining lighting experience: Pope John XXIII at St. Peter's Basilica Lighting design as a specification decision, not a budget line to eliminate Would you be interested in sponsoring our podcast? Reach out to us. Share your thoughts, comments, like and subscribe to hear all of our informative upcoming episodes! About the show: Lighting Matters is hosted by Lisa Reed and Avi Mor. In each episode, we’ll dig deep into the meticulous process of creating lighting design for architecture, showcasing industry leaders who balance artistic creativity with technical precision, and listen as they share their successes and challenges in architectural lighting design. Resources: Ron Unterreiner: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ron-unterreiner-49a549184/ IALD (International Association of Lighting Designers): https://www.iald.orgLighting Matters Podcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lighting-matters-podcast/Lighting Matters Podcast YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbLkEKnB8XgSXoeDY0T8t3w Lisa Reed https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-j-reed-b198154/ Reed Burkett Lighting Design http://www.rbldi.com Avraham Mor https://www.linkedin.com/in/avrahammor/ Morlights https://www.morlights.com/
Structural engineers are licensed. Architects are licensed. Why isn't lighting?Hosts Avi Mor of Morlights and Lisa Reed of Reed Burkett Lighting Design go unscripted. It starts with a hotel ballroom running 20 footcandles at a dinner event, broken dimmers, and no one who knew how to operate them. From that comes a pointed question: why is proper lighting still treated as a luxury? The specification market sits at roughly 3–5% of total luminaires sold in the U.S. Lisa and Avi dig into licensure, the IES partnership with America by Design, and whether Neocon's Illuminated show can move that number. In This Episode: Season preview and upcoming guest lineup Hotel ballroom lighting failure and the luxury perception problem Neocon's Illuminated show: lighting in front of 50,000 designers When lighting work becomes how you see everything KU Campanile project and plans for the season ahead Would you be interested in sponsoring our podcast? Reach out to us. Share your thoughts, comments, like and subscribe to hear all of our informative upcoming episodes! About the show: Lighting Matters is hosted by Lisa Reed and Avi Mor. In each episode, we’ll dig deep into the meticulous process of creating lighting design for architecture, showcasing industry leaders who balance artistic creativity with technical precision, and listen as they share their successes and challenges in architectural lighting design. Resources:IES (Illuminating Engineering Society): https://www.ies.org Neocon / Illuminated: https://www.neocon.com The Merchandise Mart, Chicago: https://www.themart.com IALD (International Association of Lighting Designers): https://www.iald.orgLighting Matters Podcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lighting-matters-podcast/Lighting Matters Podcast YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbLkEKnB8XgSXoeDY0T8t3w Lisa Reed https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-j-reed-b198154/ Reed Burkett Lighting Design http://www.rbldi.com Avraham Mor https://www.linkedin.com/in/avrahammor/ Morlights https://www.morlights.com/
Ten experienced lighting designers walk into a conference. Can they agree on what they actually do for a living?"What do you do?" For lighting designers, it's a deceptively hard question to answer well. At the IALD Enlighten Americas 2025 conference in Tucson, hosts Avraham Mor (Morlights) and Lisa Reed (Reed Burkett Lighting Design) posed three pointed questions to ten industry veterans — Chip Israel (Lighting Design Alliance, A Salas O'Brien Company)Aram Ebben (EXP) Francesca Bastianini (Sighte Studio) Ron Kurtz (Dark Light Design) Randy Burkett (RBLD) Giulio Pedota (Schuler Shook) Steven Rosen (Available Light) Laura Arroyo (FLOU Lighting Design) Gonzalo Saez (SV Lighting Design)Nancy Clanton (Clanton & Associates)The conversation cuts to the core of professional identity, the real distinction from electrical contractors, and whether a unified global vocabulary for the profession is even achievable. Then ChatGPT weighs in — sort of. In This Episode: Welcome and IALD Enlighten Americas 2025 conference recap How do you describe lighting design to a non-technical audience? Lighting designer vs. electrical contractor: where expertise diverges Can the profession agree on a shared vocabulary? ChatGPT synthesizes responses from eight designers Debating the definition — and who it actually needs to reach Would you be interested in sponsoring our podcast? Reach out to us. Share your thoughts, comments, like and subscribe to hear all of our informative upcoming episodes! About the show: Lighting Matters is hosted by Lisa Reed and Avi Mor. In each episode, we’ll dig deep into the meticulous process of creating lighting design for architecture, showcasing industry leaders who balance artistic creativity with technical precision, and listen as they share their successes and challenges in architectural lighting design. Resources:IALD: https://iald.org/Conferences/EA25Lighting Matters Podcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lighting-matters-podcast/Lighting Matters Podcast YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbLkEKnB8XgSXoeDY0T8t3w Lisa Reed https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-j-reed-b198154/ Reed Burkett Lighting Design http://www.rbldi.com Avraham Mor https://www.linkedin.com/in/avrahammor/ Morlights https://www.morlights.com/
How does lighting affect how we tell stories? Avraham Mor of Morlights and Lisa Reed of Reed Burkett Lighting Design interview David Woody of the Griffin Museum of Science and Industry? They look at how storytelling is affected by lighting. How can we improve lighting and storytelling to have them intersect? The conversation reveals how much lighting can leave the imprint of a story on us, and how much it adds to the emotional connections we have with each other and to the stories we tell. In This Episode: · Introduction to the Griffis Museum of Science and Industry · David Woody’s Unique Role and Background · The Intersection of Storytelling and Design · The Importance of Lighting in Storytelling · Celebrating Innovations and Addressing Challenges · The Intersection of Storytelling and Experience · Designing Emotional Connections in Spaces · Future Innovations in Lighting Design · Would you be interested in sponsoring our podcast? Reach out to us. · Share your thoughts, comments, like and subscribe to hear all of our informative upcoming episodes! About the show: Lighting Matters is hosted by Lisa Reed and Avi Mor. In each episode, we’ll dig deep into the meticulous process of creating lighting design for architecture, showcasing industry leaders who balance artistic creativity with technical precision, and listen as they share their successes and challenges in architectural lighting design. Resources: David Woody: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-woody-2713172 Lighting Matters Podcast LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/lighting-matters-podcast/ Lighting Matters Podcast YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbLkEKnB8XgSXoeDY0T8t3w Lisa Reed https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-j-reed-b198154/ Reed Burkett Lighting Design http://www.rbldi.com Avraham Mor https://www.linkedin.com/in/avrahammor/ Morlights https://www.morlights.com/
Can you quantify why lighting matters—or does defining it ruin everything? Avi Mor of Mor Lighting and Lisa Reed of Reed Burkett Lighting Design record live from ArchLight Summit 2025, exploring a fundamental question: does lighting matter? They tackle the industry's most pressing challenge—proving the value of professional lighting design in every project type. Why do affordable housing developments consistently exclude lighting designers despite their residents' critical need for quality light? The conversation reveals an uncomfortable truth: good lighting remains indefinable, immeasurable, yet undeniably essential. Their solution? Show the bad to prove the good. In This Episode: Does lighting matter? Industry perspectives on value Luminaire level lighting control without sensors AI integration in lighting software and design tools Where lighting design has the most impact The challenge of proving lighting ROI in affordable housing Why good lighting can't be quantified with metrics Publishing lighting projects: what makes a compelling story Limited budget museum design best practices Would you be interested in sponsoring our podcast? Reach out to us. Share your thoughts, comments, like and subscribe to hear all of our informative upcoming episodes! About the show: Lighting Matters is hosted by Lisa Reed and Avi Mor. In each episode, we’ll dig deep into the meticulous process of creating lighting design for architecture, showcasing industry leaders who balance artistic creativity with technical precision, and listen as they share their successes and challenges in architectural lighting design. Resources: ArchLight Summit: https://archlightsummit.com/ Lighting Matters Podcast LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/lighting-matters-podcast/ Lighting Matters Podcast YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbLkEKnB8XgSXoeDY0T8t3w Lisa Reed https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-j-reed-b198154/ Reed Burkett Lighting Design http://www.rbldi.com Avraham Mor https://www.linkedin.com/in/avrahammor/ Morlights https://www.morlights.com/
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