Extra episode: Martijn Gribnau (Quant, former ASN Bank CEO) on why AI will fundamentally change banking

Former ASN Bank CEO Martijn Gribnau returns to Leaders in Finance — almost five years after his first appearance. From leading a major Dutch bank to helping build agentic AI company Quant in New York: what has he learned about leadership, innovation, and the future of financial services? In this episode, Martijn shares why AI will fundamentally change banking, why Europe risks falling behind the US and China, what boards and CEOs should do today, and why “not experimenting” may now be the biggest risk.   *** Leaders in Finance is made possible by the support of EY, Mogelijk Vastgoedfinancieringen, and Lepaya. More information about our partners is available at our partner page.   *** Listen to the previous episode with Martijn Gribnau   *** Want to stay up to date with Leaders in Finance? Subscribe to the newsletter.   *** Questions, suggestions, or feedback? We'd love to hear from you! You can reach us via email at info@leadersinfinance.nl and check out our website.   *** Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include:  Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Executive Board, ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO ASN Bank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO),  Ingrid de Swart (member of the Executive Board, a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (Executive Board, Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (former President DNB), Onno Ruding (former minister of finance), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir), Laura van Geest (Executive Board, AFM),  Katja Kok (CEO Van Lanschot CH), Ali Niknam (CEO bunq), Nick Bortot (CEO BUX), Petri Hofsté (supervisory board member, including at Rabobank and Achmea), Peter Paul de Vries (CEO Value8), Barbara Baarsma (CEO Rabo Carbon Bank), Jan van Rutte (C supervisory board member, including at Rabobank and Achmea), Marguerite Soeteman-Reijne (Chair Aon Holdings), Lidwin van Velden (CEO Nederlandse Waterschapsbank), Jan-Willem van der Schoot (CEO Mastercard NL), Joanne Kellermann (Chair PFZW), Steven Maijoor (former Chair ESMA), Radboud Vlaar (CEO Finch Capit