Is This Working?!

The Slowest Career Change In History | Magician David Gerard

April 8, 2026·1h 7m
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Is there a version of you that feels unattainable? For David Gerard, it was becoming a full-time magician. So he did it slowly. Twelve years slowly. VP at Sequoia-backed startups during the day, performing shows at night, catching 3 AM flights from Kansas back to his job. The double life was the bridge. He built the thing he actually wanted one night at a time while keeping the safe life going, until the gap closed enough to jump. And the magic wasn't the only thing he was keeping hidden. David buried his mental health struggles for decades. When he finally started talking about it, he did the same thing. Told one therapist. Then 20 people. Then 50. Then 100. He calls it "opening the aperture of fear slowly." It became his approach for everything. Not one dramatic leap. Just a longer, quieter path toward his authentic self.  Now, he’s directed the #1 rated show in Las Vegas, has consulted for America's Got Talent for four seasons, performs 100+ nights a year for companies like Google, coaches executives on presence, and runs men's groups. He talks about switching from “gasoline” to “solar” as a fuel source, choosing 1,000 real relationships over hundreds of thousands of followers, and why the secrets you keep are the ones that cost you the most. He also reads Connor's mind at the end. Just stay for that part. Chapters 00:00:00 Intro — Magic as armor, authenticity as freedom 00:01:26 From external validation to internal fuel 00:04:00 The 12-year runway — Marketing by day, magic by night 00:06:34 Breaking the container — The Dunkin' moment 00:07:43 Creating awe for a living — The magician's mindset 00:08:52 Relationships over reach — Building a career without fame 00:10:13 Fear as a compass — Micro-dosing on authenticity 00:12:56 Magic became armor — Pennsylvania in the early 90s 00:15:24 Practice enables presence — The subconscious mind 00:16:06 TGIF at Google — The American Idol of leadership 00:18:30 Red, yellow, green — The simplest coaching tool 00:23:09 The spiritual practice — Meditation and men's work 00:31:18 The career transition — From stage to facilitation 00:34:55 Magical moments keep coming — The Tetris game of life 00:48:56 Assumptions and repositioning — The magician as marketer 00:45:42 Feedback as fuel — Taking notes from people you want to become 00:54:24 Borrowing confidence — Faith from others when you don't have it 00:56:16 Resources for the journey — Books and practices that matter 00:58:08 The magic trick — A coincidence you won't believe IS THIS WORKING?! What if the most interesting thing about work isn't what we do—but what it does to us? Is This Working?! is about meaningful work and the messy humans who do it. Host Connor Diemand-Yauman talks to the leaders, builders, and creatives navigating the chaos through the moments they question everything and show up anyway. Next episode dropping soon - subscribe to get notified!

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