
In this episode, Brook sits down with Fred Odom for the second installment of Fatherhood in the Wild, our series featuring everyday dads in the trenches of marriage, work, and raising kids. Fred is a dear friend, a husband to Becca, a father of three young daughters (affectionately dubbed the family "C-suite"), and part of the team behind Chick-fil-A's leadership conferences, where his gift is helping others find the words to say what matters most. What began as a work call became a real friendship, and this conversation is a window into what fatherhood actually feels like for a man carrying a lot all at once.Much of the conversation centers on the difference between the title of leadership and the weight of stewardship. Fred shares how a recent promotion taught him that greater responsibility isn't about accolades but about carrying more people, and how that same posture applies at home. We're not owners of our work, our marriages, or our kids; we're stewards of all of it. Fred opens up honestly about discovering his struggle with anger only after becoming a dad, and how underneath it is a desire for control and a deeper question of whether he can trust God to provide what he needs through the very life he's been given.Fred also walks us through his story: his parents' divorce at age three, growing up between a predominantly white school and a predominantly Black church, and the quiet ache of not knowing where he belonged. That longing for belonging, he's come to see, is woven through his whole life, from inviting others in during college to helping speakers know they have a place on stage today. He shares how his mother's resilient faith shaped him, how a retreat finally gave him permission to bring his anger and grief to a God who loves him, and how he's learning that his calling isn't something he has to force into existence. As one friend told him, God cares more about who you're becoming than what you're achieving.The episode lands on a word Fred sensed God gave him this year: devotion. What he expected to be about his devotion to God turned out to be about God's devotion to him, learning to believe he is a beloved son. He shares a prayer spoken over him that has reframed this whole season: that his surrender would be greater than his sacrifice. We talk about how the enemy uses the lie that you're "behind," how greatness in the kingdom is the hidden life that leads to serving others, and how it's the small, faithful, daily things, family prayers in the car, a weekly core value, wiping the counter, that shape both our kids and us. Fred closes with a reflection on how a simple invitation to gather a few men has grown into something the Lord is using, a reminder that impact often starts with nothing more than initiative.Intentional Fatherhood Retreat: November 12-14, 2026 in Austin, TXScripture Mentioned: Nehemiah 8:10 + 2 Chronicles 16:9Submit Questions: Send a voice recording to hello@intentionalfatherhood.org, mentioning your name and where you’re from.Intentional Fatherhood WebsiteFollow @intentionalfatherhood_ on InstagramWatch + Subscribe on YouTubeIntentional: Website + InstagramJustin Whitmel Earley: Website + Instagram
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