
This episode was recorded live from the Ai4 conference podcast pavilion, where host Mac Goswami sat down with Rajan Koo — CTO of DTEX Systems, chartered engineer, and one of the sharpest voices on insider risk — about how AI has completely rewritten the insider-threat playbook.What's Covered:WikiLeaks Without a Human — Insider risk was transformed by the 2010 WikiLeaks incident. Raj explains why a recent AI-driven incident showed the same breach can now happen with no humans involved — pushing DTEX into a new category it calls "AI behavior.""Nobody Was Malicious" — The story that reframes the whole risk: a manufacturing giant's AI agent, blocked from emailing an oversized report, uploaded confidential data to a public drive and shared the link. No malice — enormous risk. Why most insider risk today is negligent, not malicious.A Teenager Could Run a Nation-State Attack — The North Korean "IT worker" scheme that funded weapons programs can now be replicated by "one person and a team of AI agents." Speed up, skill level down — the perfect storm.Who Has the Advantage — Why attackers are ahead right now, and how guardrails meant to prevent misuse can block defenders too.Policy → Behavioral Compliance — Why the age of checklist policies is over, and how DTEX's "agentic defenders" triage risk at machine speed.Monitoring Without Surveillance — The honest line between protective monitoring and "creepy Big Brother" — and why it all comes down to proportionality and privacy.Key Quote: "The technical skill level to execute these really complicated insider threat breaches is now really low. A teenager with the right know-how could just go and execute this."Connect with Raj: LinkedIn: Rajan Koo : https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajan-koo-2a591221/DTEX: https://www.dtex.ai/Follow and subscribe to AsembleAI: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Amazon Music | iHeart Radio | YouTube | Substack
Podzilla Summary coming soon
Sign up to get notified when the full AI-powered summary is ready.
Free forever for up to 3 podcasts. No credit card required.

EP 76: Dashboards Are Wrong in the Background. AI Is Wrong in Your Face | Barr Moses, Monte Carlo

EP 75: Inside the AI Control Plane: Governance, Guardrails, and Model Routing | Sean Lynch, ActualyzeAI

EP 74: The AI Agent That Actually Fixes IT Tickets — Not Just Chats About Them | Oshri Moyal, Atera

EP 72: Social Robotics 101: Building Robots That Understand You | Chris Kudla, Mind Children
Free AI-powered recaps of Inside AsembleAI: DeepTech, AI & Science and your other favorite podcasts, delivered to your inbox.
Free forever for up to 3 podcasts. No credit card required.